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Has the phone killed photography?

Just a thought,https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entert...ne-photography
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Re: Has the phone killed photography?

I don't think the mobile phone has killed photography any more than Instamatic cameras, 110 cameras and some of the other awful contraptions that we saw from the 1970's onwards.

Camera phones have certainly made photography more accessible, and technical quality is no worse than the cameras mentioned above.
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I don't think the mobile phone has killed photography any more than Instamatic cameras, 110 cameras and some of the other awful contraptions that we saw from the 1970's onwards.

Camera phones have certainly made photography more accessible, and technical quality is no worse than the cameras mentioned above.
I hope you're not including the Polaroid in the class of "awful contraptions'.
The instant contraptions draw a clear distinction between digital cameras (I include all such devices) used for sharing (and what better than a phone to do this: to click, then share?). The instant market is growing every year, apparently, and I see the appeal. My personal choice however is a Holga with a cheap primative lens, and have them printed just like the days of 'Bonus Print'.
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I hope you're not including the Polaroid in the class of "awful contraptions'.
Of course not.

I have a Polaroid back for my RZ76, but getting hold of the film is becoming a challenge.
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Of course not.

I have a Polaroid back for my RZ76, but getting hold of the film is becoming a challenge.
Don't forget the Instax, of course.

Some would say the focus isn't spot on - who gives one when the images have soul, reminiscent of one's dreams in the hands of the insta-artist. Great examples on Instagram. I especially like those where the chemistry is well past the sell-by date - by a decade or more - with incomplete development, patches of development missing and false colours. Glorious stuff.

Having the shot in hand with reflective light a quick snap with the iPhone can share it wide.
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Re: Has the phone killed photography?

Also, you can't beat the authentic sound of the pioneering days of sound recording - Dame Nelly Melba squawking into a tin can. I try to capture the ambience by scuffing my LPs in a sand pit and running the tip of a knife across the vinyl!



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Some would say the focus isn't spot on - who gives one when the images have soul, reminiscent of one's dreams in the hands of the insta-artist.
You deserve a special spot in 'Pseuds Corner' in Private Eye, Steve!



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How can mobile phones possibly have killed photography ? In reality the opposite is true with millions of people using a phone to take photos and as a result maybe developing an interest they otherwise would never have had.
Agreed; millions of people are taking billions of photographs with phones; but phone pictures are 'free', therefore very little care or thought is put into them. As a result the quality and content of phone pictures tends to be poorer than those taken with 'proper' cameras and even Instamatics.

But that doesn't mean that phone cameras have killed photography.
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Maybe sometime in the future we'll see an OMD-xxx which also incorporates a built in phone module

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That’ll be here very soon. For example we’ve already got satnavs with GSM modules for real time downloading of traffic information and updated maps and Tablet Readers with them for downloading books have been around for years, so the chips and connectivity are now cheap.

The only thing holding back is applications, and I’m sure we can think of a lot if we put out minds to it: a lot of the innovation will be driven by professional, commercial and governmental applications, with social media and consumers piggybacking on that. Uploading/backup of images immediately while off-WiFi is the obvious one (it would need massive data carrying capabilities, but would I’m sure be of niche interest for the data security advantages, and immediacy for say news media reporting and the security forces), but what about updating firmware off grid, real-time social media connectivity without having to fiddle around with your phone...
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Agreed; millions of people are taking billions of photographs with phones; but phone pictures are 'free', therefore very little care or thought is put into them. As a result the quality and content of phone pictures tends to be poorer than those taken with 'proper' cameras and even Instamatics.

But that doesn't mean that phone cameras have killed photography.
Phone pictures are free? Maybe, but you normally need a service contract.

By extrapolation all digitally produced photos are 'free', or so it is said when people care to compare the cost of digital v analogue (the same protagonists neglect to mention the cost of their digital wonder-horse, and the horrendous depreciation that follows).
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There is only depreciation if you upgrade to the next model, or if it fails.
Otherwise it is saving the day to day cost of film and processiing.
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I have already purchased my last digital camera, and that was some time ago. When they die (for some strange reason I have more than one) - curtains!
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At my age, I sometimes wonder which is going to survive the longest, me or my cameras. As I still have an OM1n and an Olympus Trip, I think I already know the answer

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Analogue cameras are like us old gits, we all need regular exercise to function properly.
For their film cameras, Leica recommend moving everything that should move on a regular basis, amoungst other things such as the frame line selector, that means triggering the shutter through its entire speed range once a month or so.

(They fail to mention what to do about things that move that shouldn't, but I find gaffer tape quite effective.)

If you haven't used your film cameras for some time, I'd recommend a CLA before you do.
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Good point Steve, looks like a trip into the loft is called for

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