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E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

Changed Mind - Can this be removed please?
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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

it's interesting that you have changed your mind - people may like to chat to you about why (BTW I still have my E30 and a selection of lenses so i can appreciate it)

So rather than deleting if I have marked it as "sold"

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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

Yeah that's fine. I actually don't have the cash for the other camera and love the selection of lens I have for the e-30 so would find it really hard to get rid of.

I do always dream of going to a sony full frame as they look a great bit of kit and I know the e30 is a bit dated now.

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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

If the weight isn't an issue I don't blame you George for changing your mind. It would cost you a lot of money to replace that range of kit. Maybe you ought to go for an EM1 and an adaptor in the meantime. The Mk 1s are pretty cheap second hand now.
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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

What would I get out of the em1 that I don't get from the e30? I know it's smaller but I'm not sure how much of an upgrade it would be.

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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

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What would I get out of the em1 that I don't get from the e30? I know it's smaller but I'm not sure how much of an upgrade it would be.

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16 megapixels vs 12 combined with more advanced sensor capable of using higher ISO and with greater dynamic range.
Better image stability system.
Ability to use 4/3 and m4/3 lenses to protect your further investment.
Weather sealed.
Focus stacking......

Quite a few more things which I can’t remember on the train going home from work.
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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

That's difficult for me to answer as I never had an E30 only an E510.
My guess would be that the main image quality improvement would be in high iso performance. I used to be wary about using my E510 over 800-1600 iso due to the increased noise level and detail loss. The EM1 hardly shows any difference at these levels.
Plus those that Larry listed.
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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

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16 megapixels vs 12 combined with more advanced sensor capable of using higher ISO and with greater dynamic range.
Better image stability system.
Ability to use 4/3 and m4/3 lenses to protect your further investment.
Weather sealed.
Focus stacking......

Quite a few more things which I canít remember on the train going home from work.
Thanks Larry. Sounds like it's def worth me taking a look at.I never really thought about the ability to use the same lens I already have and not need to start building again.
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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

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That's difficult for me to answer as I never had an E30 only an E510.
My guess would be that the main image quality improvement would be in high iso performance. I used to be wary about using my E510 over 800-1600 iso due to the increased noise level and detail loss. The EM1 hardly shows any difference at these levels.
Plus those that Larry listed.
Thanks Phil, The e-30 is better then the 510 but only slightly re the ISO noise. I'm going to have a look for a reasonably priced EM1 and try it out.
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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

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Thanks Larry. Sounds like it's def worth me taking a look at.I never really thought about the ability to use the same lens I already have and not need to start building again.
Start with an E-M1 with at least one spare battery and an MMF-3 adaptor and build from there. It is important that you get either an E-M1 or an E-M1 Mk II as they are the only Olympus micro four-thirds cameras which have dual focusing systems (PDAF and CDAF) which are required to work satisfactorily with both four-thirds lenses and micro four-thirds lenses.

See here: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52042656
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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

Your lens collection is great, perfect for an EM1 mk1 or 2.
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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

I got into m4/3 via an EPL3, and was amazed by the difference with my E620.



Then I got an EM5 from on here (which ended up without live view through the viewfinder), so tried a Panasonic G5, and loved having a fully-rotating screen once again.


Then I got a second-hand EM1, and have been blown away !


For me, using 4/3 lenses on any of these m4/3 bodies has not been problematic, and the EM1 has been a revelation in use. Just wish it had a fully-rotating screen ...


My 4/3 zoom lenses kept and used are the 9-18, 50-200 non-SWD, and the 70-300.
Only the 70-300 could be better in use - it can hunt at times, but it has a nice MF switch which I can use ...


The 35, 12-60, and 11-22 should all work well given their wide apertures.


Then you can see which of the m4/3 lenses you fancy, as there are some really small, pancake ones which are usually a joy to use ...
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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

See... it was well worth not deleting this thread some interesting discussions

I loved my E30 and found it very capable. The biggest reason for me to do the upgrade was taht I was sick of carrying a video as well as a stills camera. if the E30 had done video I could still be using it.

I never had the EM1 mk I, I went direct to the II and admittedly I do find quite a difference there in the ISO I can use happily. The Mark I will be as said somewhere in between, but if anyone tells you your E30 can't do higher ISO .. take a look at these ISO 1600 pics

http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43628 which were taken with my other half's 620 which has the same sensor - they have been processed in DXO.

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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

Thanks Andy. How do you find using the 4 thirds lens on the mkii?

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See... it was well worth not deleting this thread some interesting discussions

I loved my E30 and found it very capable. The biggest reason for me to do the upgrade was taht I was sick of carrying a video as well as a stills camera. if the E30 had done video I could still be using it.

I never had the EM1 mk I, I went direct to the II and admittedly I do find quite a difference there in the ISO I can use happily. The Mark I will be as said somewhere in between, but if anyone tells you your E30 can't do higher ISO .. take a look at these ISO 1600 pics

http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43628 which were taken with my other half's 620 which has the same sensor - they have been processed in DXO.

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Re: E-30 and 4 Thirds Lens

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Thanks Andy. How do you find using the 4 thirds lens on the mkii?

George
I think that I can answer that one. - 4/3 lenses work very well on the E-M1..... Much the same as they worked on my old E-3. But on the E-M1 Mk II..... Wow! They work as if they were designed for that camera. Far better than they worked on the E-3. Very fast and accurate focus. I managed to get some surprisingly good photos of WWI and WWII aircraft in flight using the old 4/3 Sigma 50-500mm (BIGMA) lens, which I see that you also have. Unfortunately the aperture on that lens failed earlier this year and it cannot be repaired. I replaced it with the micro 4/3 Pana/Leica 100-400mm lens. That's the beauty of being able to support both systems.
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