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Olympus OM-D E-M1 The first Micro Four Thirds camera that offers phase detect focusing so you can use Four Thirds DSLR lenses normally as well a Micro Four Thirds lenses.

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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

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Cheers Val - did you enjoy it ? which lens did you use ?
It was alright, not very patient and not many birds flying, wrong time of day I think. This was the m4/3 40-150mm plastic fantastic. I'll have another go tomorrow, probably in the morning.
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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

Out again this morning. You see it can focus against clouds too, improved with the settings in this thread.





And one from this afternoon. I know Missed the shot, still can't pan very good, but part of the wing is more in focus than the rest. ISO 400 1/160 F16 40-150 @ 150. This was typical of this afternoon, had a real hard time, camera did okay though.

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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

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And one from this afternoon. I know Missed the shot, still can't pan very good, but part of the wing is more in focus than the rest. ISO 400 1/160 F16 40-150 @ 150. This was typical of this afternoon, had a real hard time, camera did okay though.
Using f16 may have contributed to your problems, I will rarely go to f8 for birds in flight as the m4/3rds lenses don't need it (indeed I have read that to do so can result in diffraction softening)

A couple of examples using this technique with my EM-5



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Using f16 may have contributed to your problems, I will rarely go to f8 for birds in flight as the m4/3rds lenses don't need it (indeed I have read that to do so can result in diffraction softening)

A couple of examples using this technique with my EM-5



Nice shots, I'll get there someday. I was in shutter priority at 1/160, and I thought I saw F8, because I know that's about as high as you want to go. Panning, or trying to anyway, from a light area, to this pretty dark area. So I was surprised when I saw the exposure data. I know I had it all wrong then. I was working in manual mode yesterday so I could get F8, and was around 1/1250. Need to stop down the 40-150, at 150, other wise I have noticed purple fringing. What lens did you use on these 2?
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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

These were shot using the 75-300 mk 1
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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

Brian, whats the diff on the Mk1 to mkII 75-300 ?

and I just seen this on Bryce Bradfords Flickr about Bif - It may help ?

15 months ago

Nice, thanks, looks good! When should you turn off the IS in OM-D? What are the cases, OM-D has difficulties with tracking/moving objects, in your opinion? Thanks a lot in advance .

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I would turn off IS1 for any shots that involve panning for any amount of time, but I'd also turn it off for shutter speeds above 1/800 with the 75-300mm lens (1/125 with the kit lenses). The only time I've had issues tracking with the OM-D is when my subject disappears behind dense foliage or when I accidentally jerk the camera - making my focus point go way off-subject. At supertelephoto focal lengths this is a big deal and it's extremely easy to mess up, so you've always gotta be careful.
Another instance where the camera doesn't like to keep such accurate C-AF is when you are zooming while pressing the button - these lenses aren't built like cinema lenses, so the focus changes with every millimeter that you zoom. This can be tough for the camera to overcome, so I'd suggest staying at a single focal length whenever you are using C-AF. Naturally, if you're fast enough to let go of the button, zoom, and then re-focus this will work just fine... But if you want to talk about tricky technique, thats it!
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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

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Brian, whats the diff on the Mk1 to mkII 75-300 ?
Apart from the fact that mk2 is cheaper it looks as if its primarily a cosmetic change but some are reporting better focusing and sharpness at distance with the mk2
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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

The Mark 2 m.Zuiko 75-300 has updated lens coatings and cosmetic changes to the externals but is internally and optically the same as the Mark 1.

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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

Brian, take a look at these utubes vids on the ONE

first sent to me from Val

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnsSF...ature=youtu.be


BIG DOG focus Tips




Yank Kie Moon is awesome too


there is so much info on U Tube feast yourself

This is an utterly most awesome camera
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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

Thanks Chevvy, I've been haunting the YouTube vids on the EM-1 before I decided to go for the ONE - it is a bit good innit
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Thanks Chevvy, I've been haunting the YouTube vids on the EM-1 before I decided to go for the ONE - it is a bit good innit
Well, Brian you could say that - but what an understatement !

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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

Thanks for the pointer to the focus peaking video - most useful. May be a stupid question, but does focus peaking still show when you enable depth-of-field preview?
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Thanks for the pointer to the focus peaking video - most useful. May be a stupid question, but does focus peaking still show when you enable depth-of-field preview?
I can only go by the E-P5 I have here as I don't currently have an E-M1 but yes peaking works with DOF preview activated.

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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

I found an interesting quote regarding continuous focus tracking using the new canon composite sensor in the 70D

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Sadly Dual Pixel AF is only really used for single image AF or movie shooting (see the movie page to see how it does). If you need continuous autofocus with tracking, you have to use the 70D's conventional AF system. We looked at how well it could track a subject walking towards the camera and left-to-right across the frame.
Sounds a bit like my experiences so far with the EM-5 and EM-1

I think I will stick with my use of SAF +MF and "blipping" the shutter button as I manually track the bird through the sky until it reaches my "critical moment", followed by a quick burst at 4fps or 6fps respectively to capture the action, as here:







note - these are three different "attacks" not a continuous sequence )
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Re: Birds in Flight Bif EM-5 and EM-1

Brian, these are excellent - that focus on the "eye" is awesome !


Here are some I took with the ONE this week I managed some time off at Hayling Island yesterday (from "whats the time Mr. Wolf" walking the children two miles along the -almost empty Beach) - it was bitterly cold winds, but bright blue sky day and I was temped by Nick feeding picnic leftovers and Hola Hoops to Seagulls !

I forgot some of Matts recommended settings ... duh! must do MySetup1 for them today


http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoma...y/10196237644/


BTW I was started to see "the screen move" mega Duh! I did not realise the ONE is Touch Screen ... not got to that bit of the manual yet
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