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Question for Ian

One of the E-30 new features is variable aspect ratios! I see this of some use say if doing event work with a 10x8 or 6x4 printer you would just print without cropping the file - great.

BUT is there any kind of indication in the viewfinder? becuase without that I would potentially be worse off as I would have nothing to play with in PP

Any insight into this feature Ian

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One of the E-30 new features is variable aspect ratios! I see this of some use say if doing event work with a 10x8 or 6x4 printer you would just print without cropping the file - great.

BUT is there any kind of indication in the viewfinder? becuase without that I would potentially be worse off as I would have nothing to play with in PP

Any insight into this feature Ian

Cheers

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Hi Dave,

No there isn't any indication in the eye piece finder. On the LCD screen you effectively see a cropped view. And in fact the alternative aspect ratios are just crops of the 4:3 aspect ratio sensor area. For example, 3:2 (which most other DSLRs default to) goes down from 4:3 4032x2024 to 4032x2688 pixels, but that's still well over 10MP. These variable aspect ratios are only for JPEGs. RAW mode always records the entire sensor area.

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These variable aspect ratios are only for JPEGs. RAW mode always records the entire sensor area.

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Actually that's a good feature - if you are working with a different aspect ratio for a job where you need quick turn around to a specific ratio for requested prints then you have not throwm away that extra (as long as you shoot RAW+JPG of course)

Until I read that I didn't know why I would ever use this feature when I win the camera

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Re: Question for Ian

I can't see a point to this function, all this is doing is using less of the sensor to crop the image to different aspect ratios. Surely the best way would be to use the whole sensor (in 4:3 aspect ratio) to get the maximum image size and then if you want to crop do it PP. That way you can define the exact area that you want to crop, not have it set for you by the camera.

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I can't see a point to this function, all this is doing is using less of the sensor to crop the image to different aspect ratios. Surely the best way would be to use the whole sensor (in 4:3 aspect ratio) to get the maximum image size and then if you want to crop do it PP. That way you can define the exact area that you want to crop, not have it set for you by the camera.

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It's a convenience thing, Steve. It may be very handy if you want some accurate 6x4's, without bits of people's heads cropped off, for example.

Only works on JPEGs.

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Re: Question for Ian

You're quite correct Ian. It's just that I cannot understand how anyone would want to restrict the amount of data they have to work with. It's like the RAW versus JPEG argument, why give yourself less to work with when you can have the lot?

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Thanks Ian, that's much what I thought, guess its one area where the G1 EVF scores as I assume that would change aspect.

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You're quite correct Ian. It's just that I cannot understand how anyone would want to restrict the amount of data they have to work with. It's like the RAW versus JPEG argument, why give yourself less to work with when you can have the lot?

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It's like Ian said pure convenience

I've been asked to shoot a few VIP visits at work and they want a very quick turn around onto the site TV system where they will be using a different aspect ratio

This would save me one step in processing

I can't think of many other scenario's where I would use it though

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This would save me one step in processing
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Re: Question for Ian

I cant see why they couldn't just do the same kind of cropping for standard print sizes. might save a lot of hassel at the edge of frame losses.
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Re: Question for Ian

OK this is a feature I would never use, but let me play devils advocate here..If you cannot see the new ratio say 3.2 (6x4 inch) in the veiwfinder that means some of the top or bottom gets cropped which means you could still crop someones head or feet of unless you still do what we old togs have always done and leave space all around for potential crops which kind of defeats the object of different aspect ratios. But for the lack of a visual indication Oly could have had a killer feature over the competiion here.
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