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Re: Three new Micro Four Thirds Pens from Olympus

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It's just a matter of time before someone gets it right. We need to ensure there's confirmation from an 'expert' when one is found (Ian?), as I wouldn't know how to test an adapter.
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Ian's paymasters are Olympus so you can't expect him to comment can you?
Remember he is being exceptionally tolerant allowing us to discuss none Olympus equipment here. I can't imagine any other webmaster in a similar situation doing so.
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Re: Three new Micro Four Thirds Pens from Olympus

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David,

Ian's paymasters are Olympus so you can't expect him to comment can you?
Remember he is being exceptionally tolerant allowing us to discuss none Olympus equipment here. I can't imagine any other webmaster in a similar situation doing so.
I've been here a few months and had a good look around and that's the first I've heard of this being an Olympus owned website!

In that case, we should be asking for a free arapter IF we buy a m4/3 model. I'm interested in an E-P3 body to use my 4/3 lenses on, but 150 for a hollow tube would keep me away out of principle.
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Re: Three new Micro Four Thirds Pens from Olympus

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Ian's paymasters are Olympus so you can't expect him to comment can you?
Remember he is being exceptionally tolerant allowing us to discuss none Olympus equipment here. I can't imagine any other webmaster in a similar situation doing so.
As long as it's the truth (either pro or con Olympus) then I am perfectly free to say or write what I like. Outside the e-group I write independently about Panasonic on both DPNow and Four Thirds User, and in fact I do me utmost to be unbiased and fair when I write about Olympus' competitors on DPNow, which is a non platform-specific site.

Believe it or not, camera companies like Olympus respect constructive criticism and even invite it on order to improve their products.

I frequently mention cheaper 3rd party products here. Of the adapter in question, I have not heard about this until today, so I don't really have any knowledge to make any comment.

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Re: Three new Micro Four Thirds Pens from Olympus

Any idea when you'll be getting your hands on the 45mm F1.8, Ian? I want it to be so good that I'll sell the dog to get it....
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I've been here a few months and had a good look around and that's the first I've heard of this being an Olympus owned website!

In that case, we should be asking for a free arapter IF we buy a m4/3 model. I'm interested in an E-P3 body to use my 4/3 lenses on, but 150 for a hollow tube would keep me away out of principle.
Olympus doesn't have the infrastructure to operate and manage mini-sites like this. So, after I launched Four Thirds User (http://fourthirds-user.com), which is not country or Micro/Four Thirds brand-specific, Olympus UK asked me to formulate and run a community site and the e-group is the result. They paid for it to be set up and for its maintenance, which is why it's ad-free, apart from one Olympus ad position on the front page. But it's not an 'official' Olympus site.

Editorially, I have free-reign and have had no complaints in the several years I have been running the site.

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Any idea when you'll be getting your hands on the 45mm F1.8, Ian? I want it to be so good that I'll sell the dog to get it....
They didn't even have any early engineering samples last week and the expected launch date is September, so I reckon we may see some samples around the middle to the end of August.

Just to be clear, the 45mm f/1.8 is not a 'Tatsuno' lens (made in Tokyo) - it's made in China and it's not made in quite as luxurious fashion as the 12mm (which is a Tatsuno lens), although it shares a family look with the 12mm. This is partly why it is so more affordable than the 12mm (300 vs. 700). However, Akira Watanabe did say that the optical performance of the 45mm has exceeded their targets and he thinks it will be a deservedly popular lens.

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Re: Three new Micro Four Thirds Pens from Olympus

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With the greatest respect I don't think anybody can confidently make even a 'probably' statement about a camera that is most likely still deep in the developmental stage and that nobody has seen, let alone used in anger.
Lets wait and see what Olympus release before getting wrapped up in hypothetical scenarios about something that doesn't yet exist
I'd like to think that if there is an entry level 4/3rds body in the pipeline let alone an m4/3rds Pro body that they're well beyond the 'deep in development' stage.

In any case it's not unreasoable to suggest that an m4/3rds 'Pro Body' is going to cost considerably more than the E-P3 which in turn (based on the cost of the E-P1 compared to the entry level E-System bodies) would more than likely cost more than an upgraded E-420/520.
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I'd like to think that if there is an entry level 4/3rds body in the pipeline let alone an m4/3rds Pro body that they're well beyond the 'deep in development' stage.

In any case it's not unreasoable to suggest that an m4/3rds 'Pro Body' is going to cost considerably more than the E-P3 which in turn (based on the cost of the E-P1 compared to the entry level E-System bodies) would more than likely cost more than an upgraded E-420/520.
I'm not so sure. Olympus has provided the E-5 for the more serious and/or well-heeled Olympus fans. They know that the E-5xx/4xx and E-6xx users need an upgrade path. There are more of these and so the market is potentially larger. I would be surprised if they didn't provide something for them and in their range of affordability. But that's just my feeling.

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Re: Three new Micro Four Thirds Pens from Olympus

Actually, made in China doesn't bother me in the slightest, especially if it can keep costs down for a quality product - I'm sure Olympus don't just farm out to the lowest bidder then leave QC to them as well....
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Re: Three new Micro Four Thirds Pens from Olympus

Some nice shots from the 45mm here.....
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Actually, made in China doesn't bother me in the slightest, especially if it can keep costs down for a quality product - I'm sure Olympus don't just farm out to the lowest bidder then leave QC to them as well....
I totally agree. But the construction is, I'm told, not as high brow as the 12mm (more plastic parts) and there is no funky snap manual focus ring.

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Re: Three new Micro Four Thirds Pens from Olympus

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I'm not so sure. Olympus has provided the E-5 for the more serious and/or well-heeled Olympus fans. They know that the E-5xx/4xx and E-6xx users need an upgrade path. There are more of these and so the market is potentially larger. I would be surprised if they didn't provide something for them and in their range of affordability. But that's just my feeling.

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It's an interesting view and I'd like to think you're right but I suspect that if Olympus couldn't sell sufficient 4/3rds DSLR's to be profitable when the system was fresh and the only competition was APS-C DSLR's I honestly doubt that they can do so now when their only realistic sales target is existing 4/3rds owners who will actually buy the product rather than talk about it.

I've just been reading John Fosters E-5 review but it's the final few paragraphs that make the most interesting reading. I have to say I share his views on the E-System as it now stands and although I hadn't given much thought to the future of m4/3rds I find myself unable to come up with a convincing counter argument.
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Re: Three new Micro Four Thirds Pens from Olympus

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I feel the train of discussion here is pointing at a DSLR with built in EVF. It certainly looks like a M4/3 but I think that a 4/3 version will appear.
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I really think a 4/3 mount mirrorless is very unlikely.

Ian is always saying that mirrorless is the future and I have no reason to doubt him as he is closer to Olympus than I.

But when you take a recent quote from Akira Watanabe saying that Olympus have abandoned trying to get the phase detect lenses working well with the contrast based cameras,then the writing is on the wall for any 4/3 lens owners as you will eventually be at a disadvantage when the future completely arrives .

I'd kill for that 45mm f1.8 in a 4/3 mount but it aint going to happen.
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I think that's not bad
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