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Re: Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro

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I've read such discussions, but find it seems to apply to some FT lenses and not others. I use a 12-60 SWD on EM5 II all the time and occasionally FT 50mm f/2.0 macro or 7-14 f/4.0 with no problems. My "beautiful monster" (50-200 non-SWD) seems to focus well only on the E-M1. Am I just lucky, or to undemanding of AF (I tend to use CAF-MF with peaking and use the focus ring for occasional final adjustments when it's critical; being old school this doesn't seem arduous) or what?


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It's the ZD SWD & Sigma HSM lenses that don't focus well (or badly) with CD-AF cameras, but work well with the PD-AF of both the E-M1s. The Sigma HSM was the worst on the E-M5 & could only use MF on that camera. Other 4/3's lenses are OK with CD-AF (especially if they were optimised for Live View).
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Re: Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro

As promised images from the Panny 45-175mm

The first is the cap (46mm) from the lens, at 175mm, full frame, f11, ISO 200, STF-8 flash.

The rest are at 175mm, ISO 800, f11, about 75% of frame, hand held.
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Re: Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro

I just had play with mine tonight & had forgotten how frustrating it can be trying to get the lens to lock focus at near 1:1 magnification. Any movement & it fiddles & f*rts around (there is lots of movement when I hand hold it). Good light & enough detail are essential for the AF to lock on at macro distances. That was using the E-M1Mk II & used to be the case on the E-30 too (& that would be the same for the E-3 & E-5).
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Re: Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro

Yep, just what I found, really excellent lens when you have good light and on a tripod, I didn't find it too bad on the E-3 but with the E-M5 it was hopeless and it was so heavy. That's why I eventually sold it.
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Re: Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro

I have one and use it frequently. It is very sharp and works well on the E-5 and Mk 1 & 2 E-M1s. Focus is nailed more quickly on the Mk 2 than the Mk 1 or E-5 with much less tendency to hunt or spool through the entire focus range. I often pair it with the EC-14 for a bit of extra reach and sometimes the EC-20.

The only downside is that it is very slow if used in continuous shooting, subjectively about 2 frames a second, and was pretty useless today when trying to capture a hornet in flight predating bees that were feeding on sedum The Panny 100-400 would have been much better but I didn't have it with me

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Re: Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro

Interesting John. Do you think the Panny 100-400 would give a similar quality image to the sigma150 lens for this type of shooting ?
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Re: Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro

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Yep, just what I found, really excellent lens when you have good light and on a tripod, I didn't find it too bad on the E-3 but with the E-M5 it was hopeless and it was so heavy. That's why I eventually sold it.
On the E-M5 it would get to focus & then the last part of the AF process it would go out again. Most frustrating & so I was later delighted when it worked like it should on the E-M1.
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Re: Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro

I have a Sigma 150mm I could be persuaded to part with as I like the 60mm for macro work. 350 plus P&P pm me if interested , boxed with lens caps.
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Re: Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro

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Interesting John. Do you think the Panny 100-400 would give a similar quality image to the sigma150 lens for this type of shooting ?
I think it probably would, and for a couple of reasons in that particular situation. Firstly, I was using the Sigma 150 with the EC-14 but couldn't get very close to the action (I was in a garden centre so couldn't encroach into their borders ) so the Panny 100-400 would have given me the extra reach I needed. Secondly, the Panny acquires focus extremely quickly and can also keep up with the rapid continuous shooting with AF that the E-M1 Mk 2 is capable of.

The Sigma 150 is extremely sharp but the Panny 100-400 gives little if anything away in that area. It also focusses close enough to be useful for butterflies and other larger macro subjects. Where the Sigma wins is with smaller subjects such as bees and hover flies which would require significant crops using the Panny.

Going back the main subject of this thread, the Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro is a superb lens and is, I feel, well worth the investment

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Re: Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro

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That's just tremendous.


I love macro but am not getting results quite as good as this yet. And dragonflies seem to flit about very erratically so they're hard to capture. Do you mind my asking:


- what aperture?
- how close were you roughly?
- lens only, or any extender / teleconverter?
- natural lighting or something extra?
- hand held or supported?


Maybe I need to get myself a book on macro, or a course, or find some specific online material to read.
Macro is not easy however you do it.

I use MF when shooting with my Sigma as the AF is a waste of time it is slow innacurate and too frustrating.
I use flash with a homemade diffuser currently back on camera.
The technique I use is handheld and rock breath in and hold as steady as possible shoot then breath.
I also use extension tubes and a Raynox DCR-250.
All exif is available by clicking on the picture over on Flickr.

Back to this at the moment

EM1 sigma 105 Mk11 by Alf Branch, on Flickr

I need to make a new diffuser and get back to this

Macro-rig by Alf Branch, on Flickr
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