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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

I am a bit disappointed with the price as I had hoped it to be under 2,000. I am thinking of buying this or going the 7DMII route. It is a prime lens so I would expect top class sharp pictures. Will need to understand its CAF performance on an EM1 before I finally decide. I would also like to know what the coma is like for astrophotography as well. So the reviews will be well read before I decide. Could be the last chance for Olympus for me to stay with this system lets hope they have got it right.
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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

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It's ~500 more expensive than in the US. I think it's disgraceful TBH.
I agree, it's a huge difference in price however, I don't think Olympus is to blame.

If you take the US price of $2600, divide this by the approximate exchange rate of 1.4 this gives us 1857.14, add VAT at 20% and the final cost would be 2228.57.

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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

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Too expensive and heavy for me but, as the press release indicates, it is aimed squarely at professionals who will have a different view on such matters. For that use the image quality will have to be pretty much perfect, so it will be interesting to see the reviews, especially those comparing it with the much lighter and cheaper Panasonic 100-400 zoom.

It should be a good test for the E-M1's strap lugs! I will be persisting with my 75-300 and 50-200 SWD plus EC-14.

Ron
Definitely a few challenges to the ease of purchasing LoL but re weight, I regularly use a 4/3rds Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO EXII lens plus 1.4x teleconvertor on the E-M1. This weighs just over 1.5kg without the teleconvertor.
Despite suffering very early on the strap lug issue I don't live in fear of the weight affecting the strap lugs - the E-M1 was designed for legacy lens, big and small, that would be in pro and enthusiast kit, so it should cope with the new 300mm Pro fine ... Gulp!
The comparison tests with the new Panasonic 100-400mm will be interesting, with the great flexibility that the zoom may have being perhaps limited in a small way by the light gathering limitations. But it will be a tempting lens for many enthusiasts.
The Olympus 300mm Pro is a clearly a great addition to the Pro line up but is largely aimed at a different, very demanding audience than the Panasonic.
For the early adopters of the OM-D range, the choice of lens has at last got there ... something for everyone, at a price and quality that gives you a full range of options. Roll on the E-M1 mkII.
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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

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It will be interesting to see how both the Oly 300 and the Pana/Leica 100-400 compare once both are available.
Yes, the results of real-life, in-use tests will be crucial.

It's not simply focus speed that might be the issue - for single AF the E-M1 with a Pro lens in good light is every bit as fast as the very top DSLRs. It's CAF performance where almost all mirrorless systems fall down, especially in dimmer light, against confusing backgrounds and when you try tracking focus. Both these lenses will be relatively poor at this on all existing m4/3 bodies, so in my view there's a lot hanging on this area of E-M1 mkII real-life performance.

By the time we know that one hopes the prices will have fallen a bit!
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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

Hmm. I'm sure it's gorgeous but at that price I will carry on using the 4/3 150mm f/2 and EC-20 combo which is also pretty good. And more versatile because as the light drops it can swap to the EC-14 (for f/2.8 at approx. 210mm) and finally take the converter out altogether to run at its native f/2..

It will be interesting to see real-world results. It will also be interesting to compare other aspects of the spec (size, weight etc.) with the 150 + EC-20 combo.

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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

I have been reading an article about it on dpreview and they state that it is not compatible with Panasonic's Dual IS system on the GX8. I wonder if that applies the other way round i.e. will the Panasonic 100-400 provide Dual IS with an E-M1?

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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

Just read a very promising review which states:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news...-now-a-reality

"Autofocus Operation
The autofocusing performance is an interesting mix. Using the E-M1 with S-AF mode, which utilizes contrast-detect AF only, the 300mm ƒ/4 Pro can be a little slow (approximately over one second) to rack through the full range from minimum focus distance to infinity. Given the lens's impressively close minimum focusing distance (more on that in a bit), this behavior is not all that surprising. Making shorter focus adjustments is extremely quick though, and the three-way focus-limiting switch can help improve AF speed by limiting the focus range to suit your subject. On the other hand, switching the E-M1 over to C-AF mode enables Dual Fast AF with a combination of CDAF and on-sensor phase detect, making the AF performance much quicker with nearly instantaneous AF adjustments (especially with short distances)."

Could this be what BIF shooters are looking for.

Another review said that over 50% of pictures taken with a 600mm efl lens was of BIF.
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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

I suggest waiting for the hype to settle and the in depth reviews from more independent reviewers to appear (e.g. Cameralabs and some expert birders)!
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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

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It's ~500 more expensive than in the US. I think it's disgraceful TBH.
Well, 366 of that is VAT.

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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

The price is disappointing, especially compared to the Pany 100-400.
I think the 300mm will be the pro's choice due to ultimately better IQ and slightly faster speed but the cheaper and more versatile Pany 100-400 will be the choice for most non pro's.
I can't really justify either lens as I don't use that focal range enough and the 40-150 + 1.4 TC provides enough range for me, but who knows, I may get tempted, but will wait for reviews etc of both lenses.

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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

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I have been reading an article about it on dpreview and they state that it is not compatible with Panasonic's Dual IS system on the GX8. I wonder if that applies the other way round i.e. will the Panasonic 100-400 provide Dual IS with an E-M1?

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I have to get confirmation this but while it may not be compatible with the dual IS GX8 system, it should be compatible with the GX8 and other Panasonic bodies as an OIS-only system.

It's unlikely that you will be able to use Olympus Sync IS (Olympus' dual IS system) with a Panasonic lens, unfortunately. Again, I will try to get confirmation.

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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

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Yes, the results of real-life, in-use tests will be crucial.

It's not simply focus speed that might be the issue - for single AF the E-M1 with a Pro lens in good light is every bit as fast as the very top DSLRs. It's CAF performance where almost all mirrorless systems fall down, especially in dimmer light, against confusing backgrounds and when you try tracking focus. Both these lenses will be relatively poor at this on all existing m4/3 bodies, so in my view there's a lot hanging on this area of E-M1 mkII real-life performance.

By the time we know that one hopes the prices will have fallen a bit!
The PEN-F is supposed to be announced at the end of this month (according to Simon) & the coming f1.2 lens(es) actually focusses 30% faster on it than the present E-M1 & E-M5 II, so it will be interesting if this 300 f4 lens would also focus faster on the PEN-F as it is also said (by Simon) that it is the test bed for 3 New Features that are to appear on the E-M1 Mk II (my guess is one of them may be the new 20MP sensor). Interesting times.

For me, I think I will be looking closely at the Pana-Leica 100-400 although it is also beyond what (my wife says) I can afford. For birding around home (& occasionally ventures elsewhere) this zoom lens is likely the most useful.
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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

I've just had a look at an ORF file from this lens and I'm very impressed.

CA looks to be non-existent, with excellent detail.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PROD...-m1GALLERY.HTM

I'd be interested to know what a "Barrel-mounted one-finger photo clutch" is
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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

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I've just had a look at an ORF file from this lens and I'm very impressed.

CA looks to be non-existent, with excellent detail.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PROD...-m1GALLERY.HTM

I'd be interested to know what a "Barrel-mounted one-finger photo clutch" is
I think this does look like a very sharp lens indeed, the MTF graph is very impressive, one of if not the flatest I've ever seen.

If you want reach then maybe the longer FL is the one to go for if you want IQ then this one from Oly seems to be the one to go for from the pictures I've seen. I always wanted the FT 300mm f2.8 but cost and weight put me off. Now with alleged better IO and lower cost and weight I am seriously thinking of getting this lens. For folk who want a handheld 600mm efl lens with fast light collecting lenses I would not be surprised if this turns out to be Olympus's best selling lens. It is a enthusiasts lens at a price/weight performance many have been asking for for a log while IMHO.
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Re: Olympus reveals optically stabilised m.Zuiko 300mm f/4 telephoto

Has anyone got a link to a full set of [rumoured] specs for the [alleged] new PEN-F?
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