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EM-1 MARK II review

Robin Wong has posted a review of the EM-1 MARK II.

https://robinwong.blogspot.co.uk/201...ii-review.html
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

Interesting read. I'm surprised that despite raw support in Viewer 3 his IQ comparisons are in JPEG. I did spot this one-liner though:

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I did not notice any improvement in dynamic range (if there was, I would think it is negligible)
The high ISO comparisons don't show much of an improvement either.

At 1850 I can't see me rushing to buy one if that's really the case.
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

I read that and was going to highlight that line for your attention - but knew you'd be looking out for it anyway!

In the Steve Huff part I review of the camera, he says similar about DR.

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2016/1...art-1-iceland/
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

And Ming Thein's:

Review: The Olympus E-M1 Mark II

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High ISO noise and dynamic range are slightly better than the 16MP predecessors, but nothing to get wildly excited about.
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I’d say upgrade if you’re a first generation E-M1 or E-M5 user, but expect solidly incremental rather than revolutionary changes
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

Priced too high for me to be an early adopter will wait and see how 4/3 lens work and give it a year to start coming down in price.

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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

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These are basically exactly what has been said about the GX8 over the 16Mp series as well.
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

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These are basically exactly what has been said about the GX8 over the 16Mp series as well.
I had high hopes, based on claims from Olympus executives at the Photokina launch ("1-stop better DR, 1.5 stops better noise, not same sensor as Pen-F") that there would be a decent step up in IQ. Seems I'm going to be disappointed.

I'm not dissing the camera though. I can see that for anyone shooting sports, wildlife etc that the E-M1ii is likely a no-brainer. Probably the first u43 camera to make full use of glass like the 300 and 40-150 Pro lenses. For us landscape shooters, it's not going to make much difference - unless the more in-depth reviews of raw files at low ISO show something that these early reviews have missed.
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

The problem is that for many people the price is all about the sensor. With u43 IQ still essentially at the same level as when the E-M5 was launched back in 2012 it's hard to justify upgrades, especially at this sort of level. Truth be known, you could take a shot with a second hand E-PM2 at a little over 100 and the E-M1ii at touching 2k and get essentially the same result in IQ terms. Of course the E-M1ii will allow you to take more challenging shots, but for a lot of people we don't push the envelope often enough to need cameras like the E-M1ii. If the IQ were better though - well, it would be much harder to resist. Pixel peeping and taking shots in near darkness are things we can all do!
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

I was looking forwards to the new model, however, at that price I will not be the first in the waiting room for it.
I think the Pen F would stand more chance for me! I have been taking pictures of fungi recently an started taking the EP5 with the old 35 mm macro and converter. Its much lighter and by using the screen to focus and shoot I find it just as good as the EM1 and a damm sight lighter.
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

Have withdrawn my pre order from SRS.
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

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Priced too high for me to be an early adopter will wait and see how 4/3 lens work and give it a year to start coming down in price.

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You may be waiting longer! When Article 50 is triggered for Brexit there is likely to be a further deterioration in the 's value and increasing price inflation.

The bundle prices are interesting: The mkii + 12-40 shows a discount of 350, and the mkii + 40-150 variants are discounted by 200. However if you are interested in the mkii + 12-100 there is only a 100 saving.
I guess this reflects current novelty and supply vs expected demand. Also the 12-40 may lose it's appeal relative to the greater versatility of the 12-100.
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

Hi Guys
Any idea when its going to be available in the shops if you don't pre order ?
I'm really quite surprised they went in so high with the price - hopefully their commercial and marketing teams have got it right !!
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

Only real preorder advantage seems to be when you get hands on your new camera unless you really want a 12-100 at 100 off most people probably have the other lenses?
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Re: EM-1 MARK II review

Hi Wee Man

Thats what is now whirring in my I replace my 12-40 for the 12-100 and uses my prime lens in between

the pb is 2800 is pushing it for a hobby

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