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Whites

Normal Guilty Parties of E-3, Sigma 150mm, ec1.4.

First may be either a lesser white or a Green-veined white, the next two are Green-veined whites







All identifications are tentative and may be corrected by the competent.

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Re: Whites

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I think No1 may be a second generation M Large White! but we will wait and see what other people think!

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Re: Whites

Lovely photos as always Nick

This is a combination I have been using for the last week or so - that 150mm is a corker of a lens, that certainly hits the spot photographically speaking (well, it does for me !).

Do I take it you use flash as well when you use this combination? If so, what do you use?
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Re: Whites

Well the competent have come along in the form of Barrie and Peter (Artframes) who have told me that the first one is definetly a Large White.

Does this leave my other identifications in similar doubt, I wonder?

Thea - currently I'm doing a lot of shooting with iso and flash set to auto, which leaves me just to worry about aperture (and white butterflies who will pose on white flowers), The flash is a metz 58, a bit of a big beast for this application.

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Does this leave my other identifications in similar doubt, I wonder?
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I'm sorry I thought you knew the green veined white was a GVW. It is and you are right. Nothing else looks remotely like it.

For the avoidance of doubt you have made up the name lesser white. And this is the first generation of large whites with the second generation coming in July.

You now need a small white to complete all of the Pieridae family (the whites) but you need to find a marbled white and a wood white (much harder) to complete all of the british butterflies with white in their name.

If you pop over to France you could add the bath white and black-veined white to your collection.

Are you still awake?

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I'm sorry I thought you knew the green veined white was a GVW. It is and you are right. Nothing else looks remotely like it.

For the avoidance of doubt you have made up the name lesser white. And this is the first generation of large whites with the second generation coming in July.

You now need a small white to complete all of the Pieridae family (the whites) but you need to find a marbled white and a wood white (much harder) to complete all of the british butterflies with white in their name.

If you pop over to France you could add the bath white and black-veined white to your collection.

Are you still awake?

Peter
I think I'll let chance dictate which if any whites I add to the collection - however I've made a resolution to identify (and label) every insect I make a reasonable photo of.

So all corrections are welcome (and needed).

Anyway I no more made up the name lesser white than the chancellor made up his projections of economic growth, it was just a working assumption or indeed a mistake.

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Re: Whites

I always manage to spend hours turning one butterfly into another and then as many hours changing my mind back again - so i am not the one to ask for I.D.

One thing that is certain is these super shots.....fantastic detail due to the excellent exposure and D.O.F.
I thought I was getting somewhere with my butterfly shots...now I KNOW there's a long way to go.

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Thank you Keith

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I always manage to spend hours turning one butterfly into another and then as many hours changing my mind back again - so i am not the one to ask for I.D.
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I'm OK on ones I've positively identified before, the rest - well books and web pages give a lot of info, but they tend to work on the assumption your interest started at eight. It's very difficult to pick up the 'obvious' differences without an 'adults' help (or an obsessive 8 year old mind)

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One thing that is certain is these super shots.....fantastic detail due to the excellent exposure and D.O.F.
I thought I was getting somewhere with my butterfly shots...now I KNOW there's a long way to go.

Keith
Well with PaulE posting some stonking good shots, it's clear I'm not the group expert (but then I never thought I was).

My one tip is practise, whenever I can get a subject to pose I'll take as many shots as possible - varying the angle and exposure compensation - looking at the histogram for the last picture. Then I'll look at the results and study the exif. That way I get an instinct for what works - what I need for any shot.

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