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Re: Flying Pig

Enlighten you as to what?
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Re: Flying Pig

"Pigs might Fly" as far as they can from the Cranky Women's Association (that was my mother-in-law's name for them) & why they are sign posted in opposite directions.

You've obviously been somewhere (or seen the sign of) where I haven't been. I've been in the Shoalhaven area though, but not the Flying Pig.
https://www.visitnsw.com/destination...g-pig-precinct

EDIT: You've brought a bit of a sad memory. We stayed down in St Georges Basin for a holiday with our four young children (some years ago now) & came home via Kangaroo Valley in our Nissan Vanette with a 1300cc (I think) motor & I didn't stop in the Valley (& should have). After going up through the bends one of my daughters threw up & & then I struggled to clim up in first gear with the load on. I'm pretty sure this was all the same occasion. When we got home there was a note on our front door with our dog's collar our neighbour had been feeding. A very sad note. It seemed our Keeshond may have been bitten by a snake & had died overnight before we got home.
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"Pigs might Fly" as far as they can from the Cranky Women's Association (that was my mother-in-law's name for them) & why they are sign posted in opposite directions.

You've obviously been somewhere (or seen the sign of) where I haven't been. I've been in the Shoalhaven area though, but not the Flying Pig.
https://www.visitnsw.com/destination...g-pig-precinct

EDIT: You've brought a bit of a sad memory. We stayed down in St Georges Basin for a holiday with our four young children (some years ago now) & came home via Kangaroo Valley in our Nissan Vanette with a 1300cc (I think) motor & I didn't stop in the Valley (& should have). After going up through the bends one of my daughters threw up & & then I struggled to clim up in first gear with the load on. I'm pretty sure this was all the same occasion. When we got home there was a note on our front door with our dog's collar our neighbour had been feeding. A very sad note. It seemed our Keeshond may have been bitten by a snake & had died overnight before we got home.
Sorry for the sad story.

Sorry Ross to hear of the sad tale...……..sorry to remind you..

The Flying Pig sign was in Berry, not far from Kangaroo Valley, on the way to Wolongong…

There was nothing up the street to see (Albany Street) anything obvious...….But you do have some amazing wildlife there...……….
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Sorry Ross to hear of the sad tale...……..sorry to remind you..

The Flying Pig sign was in Berry, not far from Kangaroo Valley, on the way to Wolongong…

There was nothing up the street to see (Albany Street) anything obvious...….But you do have some amazing wildlife there...……….
'Kangaroo Valley.. Wolongong' - you're making these up, aren't you?! (That's a poor man's version of an interrobang.)
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'Kangaroo Valley.. Wolongong' - you're making these up, aren't you?! (That's a poor man's version of an interrobang.)
Just a 'typo' for Wollongong.
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Re: Flying Pig

Flying pigs? I thought the Uniting Church sign in the opposite direction to all the other churches was the most telling bit of this shot.
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EDIT: You've brought a bit of a sad memory. It seemed our Keeshond may have been bitten by a snake & had died overnight before we got home.
Sorry for the sad story.

I'm sorry to hear about the dog and the snake. My youngest Labrador was bitten by an adder (very much less venomous than most of yours) in the last week in November. The vet's bill was horrendous (over £4k) and the lesion won't be fully healed until next week. He's a working dog and I'll have been without him for over a month at the peak of the season. An adder bite in late November is extremely rare as they're usually in hibernation but the average temperature this year was 1.1C above the twenty year mean so hibernation may have been late. The adder is more tolerant of cold than most snakes and is the only one found inside the Arctic Circle.
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Re: Flying Pig

Sugar, an adder bite is hardly expected at this (Nov) time of year. When I see adders, in summer, I can understand dogs getting bit. Hope the pooch recovers well, I bet you went ouch as well when the vet gave you the bill......
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Training dogs to react negatively to snakes is taught in formal dog training of assistance dogs (or was a few years ago). In places like Arizona it is really essential that all dogs are taught to not investigate snakes amd to avoid them.
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Part of the problem with my dog was that he was not seen to be bitten and I've no idea where or when it happened as we'd not been in snake prone areas. A bite was an unlikely option in late November so the initial diagnosis was meningitis. It was only 24 hours after the first symptoms appeared that a lesion began to develop and fang marks could be seen when his hair was clipped. The bite only became apparent after referral to a specialist vet.

Some years ago I heard an interesting description of how working dogs in the USA are trained to avoid rattlesnakes. I've not heard of anything similar in the UK and I suspect there might be practical difficulties especially as electric collars are about to be banned.
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The UK training I saw was based on operator vigilance, pulling the dog away and saying to the dog a firm Get away command. From what I remember a rubber snake doll was used to train the dog to not be curious when shown a snake.
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Part of the problem with my dog was that he was not seen to be bitten and I've no idea where or when it happened as we'd not been in snake prone areas.
So did it happen in Bucks.? I'm struggling to think of the sort of dry heathland that adders like in Bucks.. I don't know of anywhere in Herts. where they can be found. (I like adders!)

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The likelihood is that the bite occurred in Bucks but we were walking an area we've walked for thirty years and never seen a snake. A less likely explanation is that it happened a day earlier in north Devon but that particular area is not noted for adders either. It remains a mystery.

The anti rattlesnake training described to me used a live snake and obviously required considerable skill on the part of the trainer. Initially the snake was in a cage with its rattle tied up so there was no noise. The aim was to zap the dog when it got close enough to smell the snake. The process was repeated with the rattle audible thus training the dog to avoid both the scent and the noise. I've never used an electric collar but I might be persuaded to change my mind for something like that.
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