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Street London

This may be of interest to some, especially if living in the SE:
http://streetlondon.co.uk
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I know, looks a bit spicy, but there are some Street Photographers inhabiting this neighbourhood who may not blink.
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Re: Street London

I see a lot of these advertisements and wonder if anyone is actually making a living from it.

I can see the value in going on one of Damiean Demoulder street walks, but having seen, and listened in on, some of the groups that work around the banks of the Thames, etc., the standard of "tuition" is questionable.

A year ago I was employed by an Adult College to do courses like this, but they never got enough people to run them.
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Re: Street London

I've tasted first hand some pretty rubbish Street tuition - I won't mention a name as it could land me in trouble. On the other hand I've attended one run by DM and learnt a lot, surprisingly about exposure. Damien structures the course in a well though out manner, and I'd highly recommend him to anyone looking for tuition.

Back to Street London, part of the deal is a print swop.
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Re: Street London

My experience of Street workshops is that far too much time is taken with "let's go round the table and say something about yourself and what you want to gain from today". The last one I attended as a guest, that process took one and a half hours.

Last year, I did a 400 mile round trip for a workshop give by a 'luminary', same thing happened. The capacity limit was 30, I would say that about 15 photographers attended. Had 30 folk turned up, it could have taken up to the lunch break. Why would I want to spend a large proportion of the day listening to the wishes and aspirations of people whose expectation and experience is significantly different to my own? Workshops are off my agenda for the foreseeable future which is a pity. Any organiser of such an event could surely gather attendee information prior to the event and not during.

As far the the symposium is concerned, I'm tempted but needs thinking about. Not interested in a load of guff defining what SP is and what it's not.

Ho hum!

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My experience of Street workshops is that far too much time is taken with "let's go round the table and say something about yourself and what you want to gain from today". The last one I attended as a guest, that process took one and a half hours.

Last year, I did a 400 mile round trip for a workshop give by a 'luminary', same thing happened. The capacity limit was 30, I would say that about 15 photographers attended. Had 30 folk turned up, it could have taken up to the lunch break. Why would I want to spend a large proportion of the day listening to the wishes and aspirations of people whose expectation and experience is significantly different to my own? Workshops are off my agenda for the foreseeable future which is a pity. Any organiser of such an event could surely gather attendee information prior to the event and not during.

As far the the symposium is concerned, I'm tempted but needs thinking about. Not interested in a load of guff defining what SP is and what it's not.

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This sounds familiar.

On the topic of improving one's street photography, I think there's a lot to be gained from purchasing and studying photography books of or by the masters.
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Re: Street London

You are right Steve, books represent much better value. From what I hear, most workshops just do not provide notes that can be referred to later. It's interesting that on this forum so little is written about photography books, few if any reviews, suggestions or recommendations. My 'library' grows slowly but surely. Latest acquisition is 'Beyond Beauty' covering the work of Irving Penn.

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Re: Street London

You want to see my book case, the shelves are filling up rapidly, on average I'm adding a book every month or two. One of my recent acquisitions is Magnum Contact Sheets, an excellent book and it's interesting and educational to see how the recognised masters worked a scene, and the final cut to the masterful shots we recognise. I found it interesting to read that HCB would look at his contact sheets upside down to check the 'form' before studying the 'content'. The rejected images, well he literally cut them up using scissors.
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Re: Street London

For me all photography must be fun, and when I'm not enjoying myself I stop.

I most enjoy capturing people's expression, so often I will engage with them.

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Re: Street London

There is one event in that festival, and one workshop in the London Street Photography Festival the weekend after, that I'd recommend and would consider attending myself, but I'm already going to a street workshop in late September. Enough's enough, so I won't be going to either.

First, Dougie Wallace is a star, and if his sort of street shooting interests you then 35 quid for a 90' street walk on Friday evening isn't bad. Unfortunately I assume you have to pay 100+ to go to the rest of the thing as well and sit through lots of social media marketing and all the gestelt, blurry snaps and zen bollox from angry young things with prominent piercings (sorry).

Secondly, Vineet Vohra really is an internationally-famous street photographer with a good reputation for proper teaching, and 2+ days of him for 349 is good value IMHO - http://lspf.co.uk/workshops/
http://www.thestreetcollective.com/vineet-vohra/
That's very tempting, but I can't afford the time just then.

Mostly otherwise I'd say these are much more style than substance. Brick Lane is a tired cliche these days, Hipster Heaven.

I'm happy to admit I've never heard of most of the photographers involved with either.
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Re: Street London

Best way to improve your street photography. Get camera and walk out the door. Wish I took my own advice
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This is true. One of the greatest barriers for most street photographers is fear, fear of confrontation in one form or another. I've been on a number of 'courses' but not one has taught fear management. On one of these I was advised to shoot from the hip, but I think that's sneaky and worse than having the viewfinder to the eye if caught. In terms of the higher end of sneakiness the long Safari type lens is king!
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This is true. One of the greatest barriers for most street photographers is fear, fear of confrontation in one form or another. I've been on a number of 'courses' but not one has taught fear management. On one of these I was advised to shoot from the hip, but I think that's sneaky and worse than having the viewfinder to the eye if caught. In terms of the higher end of sneakiness the long Safari type lens is king!
Shooting from the hip is a real cop out. I talk to a lot of the people I photograph, 99% of the time it's great. The only time I've been told to f**k off was down to my poor judgement. Occasionally, I take a candid photo and then tell the person and ask if that's OK with them. I took this approach with one guy, we had a very interesting conversation about immigration and our roots, (he is Afro- Caribbean) and we ended up doing a duet on the street. By chance, we met again a few months later and I got one of my favourite shots of all time.

PS to Mark. Brick Lane can be a cliche but still rewarding if you get between the 'skin and the shirt' ..............(Cartier Bresson)

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Re: Street London

An exception to the wait level technique (which is akin to Emus burying their heads in the sand - a good story but unfounded) is the TLR as used by VM.

When browsing the past masters, their images alway look better than what's churned out today - maybe because the streets were less cluttered, maybe because people took more pride in their appearance, ... the list could go on.
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