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Standard zoom and mid range Lenses with focal lengths larger than 12mm, but no longer than 60mm, includes standard zooms and portrait primes plus some macro lenses.

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Anyone know if dual IS will work with this lens on the EM-1 Mk 1 ?
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Re: 12-100

I understand that this lens will work with dual IS. So far only the 300mm f4 Pro and the forthcoming 12-100 f4 Pro are claimed to work with dual IS. The current E-M1 with recent firmware works very well with the 300mm Pro so the new zoom should as well. I suppose that it may be possible for some other, probably Pro lenses, could be enabled with a firmware update but as far as I know this has not been announced by Olympus. Panasonic have announced a forthcoming firmware update for sone of their lenses to permit dual IS but of course their system is different from Olympus. It is apity that the systems are incompatible as in other respects panasonic and Olympus m43 lenses are more or less interchangeable.
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Re: 12-100

The interesting part with the E-M1 FW version 4.0 update & E-M5 Mk II FW version 2.0 update was that it included the Sync IS function as well but could not be mentioned then because the first lens (300mm f4 Pro) to have it had not been released at that time, but I do think Olympus should update the listed info in those updates now though, because the side note for that 300 f4 lens is:-

5-axis Sync IS compatible camera bodies: OM-D E-M1 V4.0/OM-D E-M5 Mark II V2.0 or later (as of January 2016)

This is a quote from the Olympus page.
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5-axis Sync IS: the world's most powerful[1] image stabilisation

This is the first Olympus interchangeable lens to be equipped with in-lens IS (image stabilisation). Combining in-lens IS and in-body 5-axis IS, 5-axis Sync IS[2] achieves the world's most powerful[1]image stabilisation, equivalent to 6 shutter speed steps. This makes previously difficult hand-held super-telephoto shooting possible.

1: According to CIPA standards. When correction is carried out on two axes (yaw and pitch), image stabilisation during halfway press: Off. Camera bodies: OM-D E-M1 V4.0/E-M5 Mark II V2.0 (as of December 2015)
2: 5-axis Sync IS compatible camera bodies: OM-D E-M1 V4.0/OM-D E-M5 Mark II V2.0 or later (as of January 2016)
In-lens IS performance is equivalent to 4 shutter speed steps.
Other bodies from E-M5 onwards (with 16 MP sensors or later) also had the following update, which still allows the bodies to correct for 'roll' along with the lens's OIS operation.

Compatible with Olympus lens with a built-in image stabilizing function.
* The camera body recognizes the IS built into the lens, allowing for optimal image stabilizing effects.
* Not compatible with 5 axis Sync IS.
* You can get the effects of rolling stabilization from the IS function of the body, along with the effects of image stabilization from the IS function of the lens.


Since I don't have the 300 f4 lens I'm not sure how it displays in the Menu of any of the camera bodies for IS settings, but I would assume this 12-100 f4 lens will be the same. They may need to update the camera bodies to still make the lens fully compatible, but that is only a guess on my part.
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Re: 12-100

As the EM-1 camera firmware uses a look-up table to apply lens correction info when generating the in-camera JPEGs (and to include the correction parameters with the RAW image file) I expect there will be a f/w version update as the new lens become available.

This happened previously corresponding to the releases of Pro lens such as 40-150, 7-14 & 300.

It would be great if Olympus made the Focus Limiting feature available on the E-M1 mki.
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Re: 12-100

Yes, the message is 'not yet' but then the new lenses are not yet available! Toshi indicated that it will be compatible.

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Re: 12-100

Early reviews are suggesting this lens is very good, and justifies its high price. I had been hoping it was compatible with the MC-14 teleconverter, but there's no mention of this so I guess not. Without this feature, it'll have to be a lot sharper than my 12-40 f2.8 PRO and 40-150 f2.8 PRO lenses to justify buying it I'm afraid...
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Re: 12-100

I saw the DPReview E-M1ii video interview with a guy from Olympus USA. The 12-100 was also there. It looks very nice - somewhat smaller than I was expecting. That's quite a range. It could be an excellent one-lens solution for a landscape photographer (or maybe two-lenses with the 7-14).
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Re: 12-100

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Early reviews are suggesting this lens is very good, and justifies its high price. I had been hoping it was compatible with the MC-14 teleconverter, but there's no mention of this so I guess not. Without this feature, it'll have to be a lot sharper than my 12-40 f2.8 PRO and 40-150 f2.8 PRO lenses to justify buying it I'm afraid...
It's not compatible with the MC-14, I confirmed that with Terada san. He says the optical performance will be very good and suggested that in two years time, assuming we meet again at Photokina, I will be using that lens

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Re: 12-100

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...it'll have to be a lot sharper than my 12-40 f2.8 PRO and 40-150 f2.8 PRO lenses to justify buying it I'm afraid...
It needed to be F2.8-F4 for me to buy it. Although I love to be able to go out to 100mm in one lens, without that extra bit of light at the wide end it can't replace the 12-40 F2.8 for interior shots; shame, as I would have dropped the latter like a hot potato.
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It needed to be F2.8-F4 for me to buy it. Although I love to be able to go out to 100mm in one lens, without that extra bit of light at the wide end it can't replace the 12-40 F2.8 for interior shots; shame, as I would have dropped the latter like a hot potato.
It would be a very nice alternative to my bargain priced (used) 12-60 SWD lens.
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Re: 12-100

F/2.8 would have made it uncomfortably large. Wide angle needs less brightness than telephoto in my view.

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Re: 12-100

It will be good to get hands on and see what it can do for us as individuals.

I rarely zoom to much beyond 50mm with the 40-150 and when I do its all the way to 150. I never took to the 200mm lens in Film days so it's a focal length that doesn't suit my eye.

Certainly will be an attractive one lens travel option and the extra stabilisation will more than offset the light drop from f/2.8 to f/4
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F/2.8 would have made it uncomfortably large. Wide angle needs less brightness than telephoto in my view.

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Yes, just like the 25mm f1.2 info was leaked (by Simon) that an f1.0 prototype was made & that would have been 'uncomfortably large' as well as 'uncomfortably' expensive.

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It will be good to get hands on and see what it can do for us as individuals.

I rarely zoom to much beyond 50mm with the 40-150 and when I do its all the way to 150. I never took to the 200mm lens in Film days so it's a focal length that doesn't suit my eye.

Certainly will be an attractive one lens travel option and the extra stabilisation will more than offset the light drop from f/2.8 to f/4
The more I look at this 12-100mm lens the more I can see it would be very useful as I am still wanting more reach than my 12-60 SWD lens is giving me (without resorting to changing lenses) & why I have never really been attracted to the 12-40 lens for its shorter range. F4 on the 12-60 (at 60mm) is OK & with the extra OIS (Sync IS) of the 12-100 it should serve very well it most situations.
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F/2.8 would have made it uncomfortably large. Wide angle needs less brightness than telephoto in my view.Ian
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...F4 on the 12-60 (at 60mm) is OK & with the extra OIS (Sync IS) of the 12-100 it should serve very well it most situations.
I always thought that the natural design of lenses tended to give a wider aperture at shorter focal lenses (and vice-versa), the reason why so many budget zooms get darker at longer focal lengths. I assumed that it was clarity and sharpness at the edges that caused the manufacturers to artificially limit the aperture at shortest focal length of zooms. So I am not sure why a F2-8 to F4 would necessarily need a larger, wider lens. Yes, the OIS would help in darker situations but with an F4 lens in the important portrait range of 20-40mm it makes this less of a one stop lens that the 100mm maximum focal range would indicate.... of course I do have the 17mm F1.8 but tend not to carry it with me all the time (no 25 or 45mm as yet).
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