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Should I stay or should I go?

...tired of waiting...
Nikon brings out the 600D...
Its sensor according to DxO it will work happily at around ISO 3000 while the EM-5 works happily at around ISO 800
It has an intervalometer and will push out raw video...
So ,hopefully,
I will hang on for the E 7 but its a year away... and I worry that it may not meet the mark set now by a body that will be of similar cost
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?

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...tired of waiting...

I will hang on for the E 7 but its a year away... and I worry that it may not meet the mark set now by a body that will be of similar cost
I hope it is not that long and anticipate being excited by its innards.

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...tired of waiting...
Nikon brings out the 600D...
Its sensor according to DxO it will work happily at around ISO 3000 while the EM-5 works happily at around ISO 800It has an intervalometer and will push out raw video...
So ,hopefully,
I will hang on for the E 7 but its a year away... and I worry that it may not meet the mark set now by a body that will be of similar cost
Funny, but my E-M5 happily works at ISO 6400! (with Auto ISO set to go up to 6400) Also, as a work around, the Antishock, shutter delay can be used with a cable remote & locking shutter button (or just an elastic band ) to work in the same manner as an intervalometer.
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?

If you're going go now before the value of your legacy 4/3 equipment drops further than it already has.
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?

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Funny, but my E-M5 happily works at ISO 6400! (with Auto ISO set to go up to 6400) Also, as a work around, the Antishock, shutter delay can be used with a cable remote & locking shutter button (or just an elastic band ) to work in the same manner as an intervalometer.
"intervalometer mode" >>>

...about 3/4 way down the page, here: http://www.ayton.id.au/wiki/doku.php...usem5_settings

I've been doing some reading!

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Re: Should I stay or should I go?

That's a very strange thing to say ;
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... while the EM-5 works happily at around ISO 800
Nikon's D600 (Not Canon's 600D) is a full-frame DSLR.
Go get a full-frame DSLR if you want one, I would in a jiffy!
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That's a very strange thing to say ;


Nikon's D600 (Not Canon's 600D) is a full-frame DSLR.
Go get a full-frame DSLR if you want one, I would in a jiffy!
What I am trying to say is that DxO have a standard testing system for testing sensors. One is a low light sports test in which the highest ISO that the sensor can be run at with a given level of noise/image degregation is determined. For the Nikon this around 3000 and for the EM-5 is around 800.
My fear is that I will wait for a year for the E7 and the sensor technology will not be improved that much ...
Olympus are at a crossroads with their cameras , they have a compact line, they have a CSC line; that they are developing to be a DSLR replacement (or so it seems) and they have their DSLRs.
So clarity is required to where they are going. And this may depend on their solution to allowing 4/3 glass to work on some variant of a m4/3 body
But will I be waiting in vain?
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?

After I had bought my E5 one of the mods on the AP forum tried quite hard to convince me that I should have bought a D600. I did not think so at the time and I do not think so now

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Re: Should I stay or should I go?

I am having problem opening the e magazine both have got to 50% download and then stopped so I contacted Olympus. They are hoping to come back to me in the morning to sort things for me. Having a live person on the phone I asked the question WHEN and explained about leaving etc. He was very positive that there is something coming and the time line may not be too long. But he is paid by Olympus after all? Still thinking of leaving I have to admit.
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I am unlikely to leave. More drift away. I love the E1 I have a converted E620..... but do I end up changing my investment focus
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?

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After I had bought my E5 one of the mods on the AP forum tried quite hard to convince me that I should have bought a D600. I did not think so at the time and I do not think so now

Roger
Sounds like the moderator needs moderating! It's precisely that sort of blinkered attitude which causes so much trouble on the Internet.
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What I am trying to say is that DxO have a standard testing system for testing sensors. One is a low light sports test in which the highest ISO that the sensor can be run at with a given level of noise/image degregation is determined. For the Nikon this around 3000 and for the EM-5 is around 800.
My fear is that I will wait for a year for the E7 and the sensor technology will not be improved that much ...
Olympus are at a crossroads with their cameras , they have a compact line, they have a CSC line; that they are developing to be a DSLR replacement (or so it seems) and they have their DSLRs.
So clarity is required to where they are going. And this may depend on their solution to allowing 4/3 glass to work on some variant of a m4/3 body
But will I be waiting in vain?
Sensor technology may well improve by that much in a year. There's a rumour that Olympus have tweaked the Sony sensor for the E-PL5 to give a +1 stop improvement in noise and dynamic range over the E-M5. Remember, though, Full Frame sensor technology will not stand still either. If you really need the quality of the latest Full Frame cameras, you're most unlikely to ever get that from Four Thirds at the same time.
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Wish you hadn't said that. But you are so right...
Solar Max isn't until the end of next year...so I'll hang on and save up for the next 4/3
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Whatever format or type of camera you buy, it will invariably involve a compromise somewhere along the line. It's a case of individually identifying which compromises matter the least to us. If there was such a thing as the perfect camera, it would be the only one!
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Have you not read dpreview's review of the OMD EM-5, Crimbo? The following is an extract from the conclusions:

"If you're absolutely unwilling to compromise on image quality then spending twice the money and moving up to the bulk of full-frame is the only way of gaining a significant step up from the E-M5."

I read into it that they consider that the OMD renders the APS sensor cameras effectively obsolete!

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http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympusem5

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