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Macdonald Bros

This was the next band that I tried with e PL7 and 75-300. Better lighting, more sensible colours.

Better results, methinks!

The band:

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First brother, on a penny whistle (so couldn't help his face being a bit obscured):

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Second brother:

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I like the effects from the colored lighting with these shots, and they do represent what the band looked like. They were difficult to photograph however, because they were nodding to the music, and I had lots of images with sharp shirts and fuzzy faces!

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Re: Macdonald Bros

I tried the 75-300 when I first started to take gig pics Keith, and found it a bit wanting....the 40-150 is a much better bet and i've had some of my gig pics used by the artist on their website so quite pleased about that.

Attended a course by John Watson ( http://www.jazzcamera.co.uk/) in June this year who gave us some really useful tips on gig pics....S instead of A priority for a start. Check where you want to be to avoid too many things in front of the performers, ask for permission and use a monopod tripod where possible. I tend to use auto iso and auto WB also,

Keep plugging away thats what makes photography so interesting.

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Re: Macdonald Bros

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I did use the 40-150 for some of the shots, but can't remember which ones, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't for these three.

Like the others, the ISO was set at 5000, exposure -1 stop, giving speeds in the range of 20-50. Too slow for such a powerful lens, really, but the IS is so good, I was surprised to get results this good. There were others taking photos too - one lady on her mobile phone! She kept trying and gave up eventually... Seating position is dictated by the hotel, you don't have any choice beyond picking a remaining area.
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Re: Macdonald Bros

Hi Keith,

Don't think i've ever gone to 5000 iso, although when shooting on auto iso you never really know....for me the 40-150 wide open at 2.8... is far superior....I generally ask prior to the concert if I can take pics....sometimes they say yes that's fine I then say can you get me a seat closer to the stage, or can I stand by the side, sometimes the answer is ask the artists, if they know you want to take pics you can generally get closer. I sat in the Apex Bury St Edmunds 5 rows from the front to take loads of pics 3 years ago, no-one minded in fact a lady asked me if she could have copies, but I never got round to getting her email.

Here's one of those pics taken 3 years ago....

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Hi Keith,

Don't think i've ever gone to 5000 iso, although when shooting on auto iso you never really know....for me the 40-150 wide open at 2.8... is far superior....I generally ask prior to the concert if I can take pics....sometimes they say yes that's fine I then say can you get me a seat closer to the stage, or can I stand by the side, sometimes the answer is ask the artists, if they know you want to take pics you can generally get closer. I sat in the Apex Bury St Edmunds 5 rows from the front to take loads of pics 3 years ago, no-one minded in fact a lady asked me if she could have copies, but I never got round to getting her email.

Here's one of those pics taken 3 years ago....

Yes very good! In my case, though, two points:
1. I can't afford the 40-150 Pro. So I'm not a lot better off using the consumer 40-150 in terms of aperture, than the 75-300.

2. We stayed at a Warners Hotel, Gunton Hall. Very different to a normal gig. Anyone can take photos, but the seating, as I said, is allocated online, on a basis of 'here are the available seating areas, which do you wish to pick?' We booked very late, so only had a choice of seating at the back of the hall; there were some seats at the side of the stage, which would have been far better, if I had known what the layout was actually like; but you can't get a preview without staying there. In the event, I managed to get two or three shots from that side, of the in-house group, which were better (thought the lighting was still problematic for photography; I'll explain when I post those images at a later date.) Given the conditions, and limitations of the kit that I took, I doubt that I - or anyone else - could have done better.
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Re: Macdonald Bros

No you're probably right Keith....sometimes the conditions of where you are just makes it more difficult.

The little 40-150 is a fine lens, not as fast maybe as the pro 40-150, but still really good. Lighting is always the key issue. I went to a gig earlier this year and the lighting was awful took 3 pics and gave up...

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No you're probably right Keith....sometimes the conditions of where you are just makes it more difficult.

The little 40-150 is a fine lens, not as fast maybe as the pro 40-150, but still really good. Lighting is always the key issue. I went to a gig earlier this year and the lighting was awful took 3 pics and gave up...

Keep going and keep smiling....
Now that I've checked the EXIF, the first and second were with the 40-150R, the third with the 75-300R MkII.

First one was 1/50 at f4.8 (exp -0.7); second was 1/30 at f5.6 (expo -0.7); third was 1/20 at f6.7 (so wide open) (exp -0.3); all at ISO 5000. So I could have gained a little by dialing in more underexposure. Thus the first and second were from closer to the stage.
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