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E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

A photo of Grasmere.
0.6 nd grad, no tripod, 8 images, converted in capture one and stitched in cs4



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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

Sorry Steve but the light is in the wrong place
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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

Hi Steve, nice attempt, but the next time you might set your camera to Manual Exposure and give all shots the same exposure. Make sure that the main focus of your shot has the right exposure and some over or underexposure at the edges will be no problem.

I shoot even my 360 pano's all around with Manual at the same aperture and speed. See my site for some examples.
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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

Lovely setting and composition, but I agree about the lighting.
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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

Thank you all for your comments.
I have had a look at the photo again and have found out that if you set auto gradation in camera Capture One seems to use this setting. I had a quick look but have not found a way to stop it doing this.
I've have been playing around with the mymode settings on the E3 and it seems that I must have had this set.

I put the photos into Studio and turned the setting off. The second photo is the result. I still have some work to do on it but I think its a little better.

Dogcow the images did have all the same exposure all shot in manual, I did have a look at your site but I cant read your language sorry. Your panos in QuickTime look interesting I have seen something similar on holiday sites to look at the inside of holiday homes but your images would create some interesting challenges printing them out. I could only view one, then your site told me something was out of trial period.

The second image looks a little darker when uploaded than it does in photoshop.
When you say the lighting is wrong is this better or are you referring to the direction of the light.





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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

its the composition of the light Steve ... Grasmere is in shadow
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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

Oh right, is that what they meant.
Wow I'm thick today.
So your saying It was my timing or the shot that was wrong. I should have waited until the shadows/clouds were in a different place.I though they were saying that the shadows were in the wrong place for the suns position.
Thanks for that. I will have a look at my other runs see if its better in any or them. Its quite hard to shoot through 180 degrees when the light keeps changing mid run due to the clouds.

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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

Yes, Chris says what I meant to say! It looks like just a few minutes wait would have resulted in the valley being sunlit.
When I am doing a hand-held pano, 8 shots would take about 3 seconds, as I try to turn quickly to avoid precisely what you were trying to avoid! But if it were a strong wind moving the clouds quickly, then you've not much choice!
Also I'm not keen on the unevenness of the blue of the sky from left to right. Programs such as Autopano seem somehow to be able to reduce this effect.
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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

It was the sky that led me to the conclusion that the shots were not equally lit. But now i go with Stephen that another stitching program could do better here.
Personally I am a huge fan of PTGui (rather expensive) and Hugin (Open Source/Freeware)
I imagine both programs could do better here.

Just a personal question: I am curious what error message you got with my site as It should have been thoroughly tested with various operating systems. Could you recall the error message and post it to me?
You can pm me through this board or send me an email: karel<at>360vr.nl

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It was the sky that led me to the conclusion that the shots were not equally lit. But now i go with Stephen that another stitching program could do better here.
Personally I am a huge fan of PTGui (rather expensive) and Hugin (Open Source/Freeware)
I imagine both programs could do better here.

Just a personal question: I am curious what error message you got with my site as It should have been thoroughly tested with various operating systems. Could you recall the error message and post it to me?
You can pm me through this board or send me an email: karel<at>360vr.nl

(And yes, I am planning to put up an English version of my site, but it requires time.....)
When I click onto the a-z and then one of the images I just get this page


The first time I clicked onto an image it came up and worked ok.
Im using vista 64
Hope this is some help for you.
I can click onto the 2 pictures on the a-z page and they work fine but any of the links I try just get a page like above.

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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

The second of the images was done with autopano. the first was with cs4. I think the sky might be like that due to the 0.6 nd grad filter used on the lens.

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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

If anyone would like a go with the images I can post them here, just let me know.
If you try I would like to know what you have done with them though so I can learn something. After all that's why we post on here.

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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

I will gladly give it a try for you, see if my theory that another stitching program will render better results is right...

And thanks fot posting the error. I definitely gives me a clue where to look for this problem. I think I can have this sorted out tonight.
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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

Steve, to my eye the problem although only slight is that the foreground is well lit, the lake or middle is clouded or dull, and the sky although bright is graduated down. The reverse order would probably enhance but see what the other guys come up with on their stitching progs. By the way you have email.

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Re: E3 & 11-22 8 pano stitch

Ok for those who want to try here are the shots. there 100dpi and 1000 pixels along the narrow side.
Just right click onto the photo and put save as


















I look forward to your results and how you got there.
The marks buy the way are from dust on my nd grad.
Sorry there not quite in line but I was standing on quite a good slope when I took them.
I will post some more up from the trip soon.

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