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Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

Hi, I was looking at a shot Gus posted Called "a bit of a lift" today. Its a fine shot but the sky on the left has blown out. Would lowering the exposure compensation have prevented this? and if so, by doing that would the rest of his shot been too dark? Thats a particular problem I have and would be glad of any advise. Thanks.
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Re: Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

The traditional way used by film shooters was a set of neutral density grads.

Another method is to bracket exposures and blend them in Photoshop.

A third way is to do a mild HDR that looks realistic.
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Re: Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

Another way is to emulate film processing and dodge-and-burn. Easily done in Lightroom.
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Re: Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

at the end of the day you have a dynamic range limited by the medium you are shooting - whether it's a film or the digital sensor.

you have to choose the exposure of your shot to make the best of this; the digital solution for static subjects is to use multiple exposures at different settings and combine them in post processing

the other solution is to use artificial lighting such as flash to bring up the shadow areas.

you can bring up shadows in post processing to a degree, you can't bring down blown areas (but you can substitute them!)
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Re: Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

I regularly use ND grad filters to balance exposures.
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A third way is to do a mild HDR that looks realistic.

Thanks David, might I ask what is mild HDR please?
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you have to choose the exposure of your shot to make the best of this; the digital solution for static subjects is to use multiple exposures at different settings and combine them in post processing

the other solution is to use artificial lighting such as flash to bring up the shadow areas.

you can bring up shadows in post processing to a degree, you can't bring down blown areas (but you can substitute them!)
Thanks for the advise, I will try the flash and bracketing seperately. I need a lot of practice.
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I regularly use ND grad filters to balance exposures.
I will research the ND graduation filter. Have you a favourite one that you find works best for the shot I referred to earlier?
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Re: Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

Thanks to all for their advise, I appreciate you giving your time and sharing your experience.
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Re: Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

HDR (High Dynamic Range) is using software to combine multiple exposures of a scene. Photomatix is a popular HDR software.

ND grads come in hard and soft edged. My set consists of 2 and 3 stop filters in hard and soft edged versions.
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Re: Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

I find the graduated filter facility in LR works admirably and saves a lot of effort with glass filters. It seems so simple really and I'm surprised more don't use it - or am I mistaken? The Radial Filter facility can also be used occasionally to darken an area in the sky if used carefully.

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Re: Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

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I find the graduated filtr facility in LR works admirably and saves a lot of effort with glass filters. It seems so simple really and I'm surprised more don't use it - or am I mistaken? The Radial Filter facility can also be used occasionally to darken an area in the sky if used carefully.

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It works fine if the dynamic range limit hasn't blown the detail you want from the sky - same with dodge and burn. If the DR is too great, a graduated filter is the only single shot solution.

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Re: Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

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It works fine if the dynamic range limit hasn't blown the detail you want from the sky - same with dodge and burn. If the DR is too great, a graduated filter is the only single shot solution.

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But the LR filter doesn't just have to be used on the sky, it can be used to lighten the rest of the image if the exposure compensation needed for the sky has under-exposed the foreground, i.e. from the bottom up.

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Re: Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

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But the LR filter doesn't just have to be used on the sky, it can be used to lighten the rest of the image if the exposure compensation needed for the sky has under-exposed the foreground, i.e. from the bottom up.

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Hi David,

The LR solution is now very good indeed. But you still cannot do better than using an ND Grad.

But then again, if you don't want to carry a filter system around with you LR is fine.

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Re: Request. stop blowing out sky and keep rest of shot bright.

Another suggestion that helps if you're out and about, haven't got ND filters and unsure about HDR is to have the "Blinkies" switched on in camera use the exposure compensation to expose for highlight detail then expose for the rest normally. Then in PP substitute the blown highlight with the correct one by way of separate layers and layer masks.

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