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Re: It came away in her hands

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Sorry to have to raise this thread again and I know it is Friday the 13th.

Today I just knocked mine gently which put the hood off key and gently trying to straighten it it came away in my hands.

The thought of buying the 300mm pro has been put off as it has a similar hood.

Stocks in the UK are almost depleted which includes Olympus themselves.

I know I can buy a solid cap Canon ET-78 ll as a replacement but I much prefer keeping my equipment Olympus.

Due to the shortage of the lens cap I wonder if the manufacturer are making improvements to the design - it seems it needs to.


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Do you mean the whole thing came off the lens or it fell to pieces?

The lens hood is removable on the 40-150, so it may not be a fault!!

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Why blame Olympus ? A 12 month warranty is exactly that, 12 months. It wouldn't matter what company you were dealing with or if you had purchased an item for 120,000 the result would be the same .... Warranty Expired. it happens to us all at some point.

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Just my four penneth... being 'fit for purpose' springs to mind. I guess it takes precedence over arbitrary warranties. I worked in defence ... never heard of warranties being mentioned, it was either fit for purpose or it wasn't. If it wasn't, you know what...
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Re: It came away in her hands

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Sorry to have to raise this thread again and I know it is Friday the 13th.

Today I just knocked mine gently which put the hood off key and gently trying to straighten it it came away in my hands.

The thought of buying the 300mm pro has been put off as it has a similar hood.

Stocks in the UK are almost depleted which includes Olympus themselves.

I know I can buy a solid cap Canon ET-78 ll as a replacement but I much prefer keeping my equipment Olympus.

Due to the shortage of the lens cap I wonder if the manufacturer are making improvements to the design - it seems it needs to.


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Barrie

Do you mean the whole thing came off the lens or it fell to pieces?

The lens hood is removable on the 40-150, so it may not be a fault!!

Paul
One assumes Barrie is talking about the lens hood (& not cap).

As this is a "Pro" lens one would expect "Pro" service for it, regardless of warranty length. If this is truly a weakness in design (mine's still OK) then shouldn't Olympus be redesigning the hood for replacements? If it is truly weak, then shouldn't it be recalled for an updated "Pro" quality replacement hood instead?

I have an AEG battery mower that was intended for commercial use (a bit like Olympus intending the E-M1 Mk II for 'Pro' use) but the lower handle assembly was made too thin & so they have modified it so as they fail they are replaced with a more robust replacement instead. I don't see this issue being any different for Olympus if that hood is falling apart as much as I seem to be led to understand & that a more robust designed hood should be made available for warranty replacement at least. They had to for the articulating screen mount on the E-3 that I seem to remember.
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One assumes Barrie is talking about the lens hood (& not cap).

As this is a "Pro" lens one would expect "Pro" service for it, regardless of warranty length. If this is truly a weakness in design (mine's still OK) then shouldn't Olympus be redesigning the hood for replacements? If it is truly weak, then shouldn't it be recalled for an updated "Pro" quality replacement hood instead?

I have an AEG battery mower that was intended for commercial use (a bit like Olympus intending the E-M1 Mk II for 'Pro' use) but the lower handle assembly was made too thin & so they have modified it so as they fail they are replaced with a more robust replacement instead. I don't see this issue being any different for Olympus if that hood is falling apart as much as I seem to be led to understand & that a more robust designed hood should be made available for warranty replacement at least. They had to for the articulating screen mount on the E-3 that I seem to remember.
Ross,

My point is that the HOOD is removable, so if it simply "fell off in his hand" after hitting it on something, it probably twisted and was released!

However if it fell apart then this is obviously un-acceptable!
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Ross,

My point is that the HOOD is removable, so if it simply "fell off in his hand" after hitting it on something, it probably twisted and was released!

However if it fell apart then this is obviously un-acceptable!
Yes, I know it can come off easy.
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Ross,

My point is that the HOOD is removable, so if it simply "fell off in his hand" after hitting it on something, it probably twisted and was released!

However if it fell apart then this is obviously un-acceptable!
It was similar to Anne's problem as seen in the image which started the thread.

In my case I laid the camera down at a slight angle with the hood in its extended state which knocked it askew. Gently trying to straighten the hood it came apart. I wasn't expecting that to happen, after all as Ross says it was part of a pro lens.

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John thanks for the Kaiser info and confirmation.

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Thanks to all for your input - I think it is time to put this baby to bed!


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It was similar to Anne's problem as seen in the image which started the thread.

In my case I laid the camera down at a slight angle with the hood in its extended state which knocked it askew. Gently trying to straighten the hood it came apart. I wasn't expecting that to happen, after all as Ross says it was part of a pro lens.

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John thanks for the Kaiser info and confirmation.

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Thanks to all for your input - I think it is time to put this baby to bed!


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Re: It came away in her hands

Mine fell to bits about two months ago. However after a deal of careful re-assembly I got it all back and working with the securing ring superglued in place.

That worked well until last week when said securing ring came loose again. Clearly superglue was not up to the job. I suspect that the available area where glue can be applied such that the twist ring still moves to unlock the hood is too small for the glue to work effectively.

So I have just re-glued using Araldite Instant taking great care to keep the glue well away for the moving parts. At the moment that looks good but only time will tell.

When you look at the mechanism design it is positively fiendish but clearly too fragile.


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Mine fell to bits about two months ago. However after a deal of careful re-assembly I got it all back and working with the securing ring superglued in place.

That worked well until last week when said securing ring came loose again. Clearly superglue was not up to the job. I suspect that the available area where glue can be applied such that the twist ring still moves to unlock the hood is too small for the glue to work effectively.

So I have just re-glued using Araldite Instant taking great care to keep the glue well away for the moving parts. At the moment that looks good but only time will tell.

When you look at the mechanism design it is positively fiendish but clearly too fragile.


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We replaced Anne's with a new one.

I couldn't find a replacement as stocks were not available. Like you I glued mine back together with Ever Build stick 2 special Gel Formula Superglue omitting the ball bearings and copper springs - seems to have bonded well.

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Re: It came away in her hands

Well, the story continues. The drated securing ring came away again.

So I've cleaned everything up as best I can and then reglued using some marine epoxy resin designed for aluminium. It takes 24hrs to cure but in theory it is a reliable bond.

Again only time will tell.

It's a shame this lens hood is not really robust enough. Then again I suppose it could be that I'm a clumsy oaf!

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