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Re: Milky Way

Trouble is once you know whats out there it become quite a challenge to capture it. Stallarium is a great help to see whats out there in the sky.
I did this exercise to test the Sequator software stacking having previously tried milkyway landscape processing with DSS lightroom and elements with no results I would want to share. I wanted to see how it handled the aerials and trees. The only thing I would like to see improved at the moment is the ability to make a smaller circle for the masking process or some form of smart master selection tool.
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Re: Milky Way

This is stacked in photomatix pro. I doubt I can do any better.

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Re: Milky Way

That looks pretty impressive to me Henry. What lens and settings did you use for that one?
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That looks pretty impressive to me Henry. What lens and settings did you use for that one?
OOPS..soli for to include the camera settings.

E-M1MarkII, M.7-14mm, /2.8 @ 7.0 mm, ISO 1600

It's a stack of 10 photographs of 10s each. How it came to 23.2 sec,
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OLYMPUS M.7-14mm, /2.8, @ 7.0 mm, 25s, ISO 2000

Processed with Affinity Photo Pro.

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This is stacked in photomatix pro. I doubt I can do any better.
This has much potential Henry as good as this image is you will improve on this as you develop your processing.
I have not used photomatrix but I can see star trailing which should not be there in 10 x 10sec exposures. I think photomatrix is an HDR process and has not stacked and aligned the stars. For this type of framing (i.e no landscape) I would used Deep Sky Stacker (free) and I would process in Lightroom or Startools (65 AUD).
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Re: Milky Way

I really like how this thread has developed, it will be a great help to many I’m sure. Embarrassingly I haven’t been out and tried yet, I got sidetracked by a cloud inversion (that I missed!)
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The bit i'm not entirely sure on is knowing where to point the camera! Generically south, but is it obvious to the naked eye in a dark enough area? I have downloaded a night sky app to my phone to help!
Now is a good time to be taking milkyways images. There is some astro darnkness but the moon is bright. Some say a near full moon is no good for milkyway images but if you frame it properly you can avoid the flare on the lens and benefit from light on the foreground. I tried to hide the moon behind the trees.



Taken last night with Saturn very close to the moon so moon on galactic centre. Mars is just above the church entrance porchway. 25 images taken with OMD-EM1 MKII, Samyany 7.5mm f 3.5 20 secs ISO 400. Stacked in Sequator twice, once for stars and once for stair trails to get good foreground and blended in Affinity Photo. Thanks to this thread a new way of processing these images for me.
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Re: Milky Way

Inspired by this thread I ventured out into the back garden tonight but no matter how I massaged the file only the faintest evidence of the Milky Way was revealed:



I'm far too close to London and located in light-polluted suburbia anyway - and the bright moon doesn't help, but there is plenty of potential to improve No shortage of bright stars though!

ISO 4000, 30 seconds, f/3.5, ZD 8mm fisheye E-M1 II

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Inspired by this thread I ventured out into the back garden tonight but no matter how I massaged the file only the faintest evidence of the Milky Way was revealed:

I'm far too close to London and located in light-polluted suburbia anyway - and the bright moon doesn't help, but there is plenty of potential to improve No shortage of bright stars though!

ISO 4000, 30 seconds, f/3.5, ZD 8mm fisheye E-M1 II

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Be interested to know what software you used to process your images Ian.

With Sequator I used Accumulation trails with Auto brightness for the foreground image and for the aligned stars I used Accumulation Freeze ground with selective ticked, Auto brightness, Sky region Irregular mask, reduce light pollution middle setting and Intelligently aggressive ticked. It seems that your ISO is very high, which is normally needed for really dark skies and low pollution. My own understanding is that the shutter speed and aperture are the only settings you need to concentrate on for astrophotography and adjust the ISO so that the histogram is about 1/3 from the left. I have tried the expose to right without much luck as it too often blows the light pollution.

You are not to close to London my shot was taken with Basildon skies in the background. As for your location at Hemel it will be coming into its own from now on once the moon becomes dimmer. Looking SW-W your skies will be over the Chiltens. Look for Saturn a bright looking "star" in the South which will move SW through the night. A short drive, clear skies and selective location should give you some great foreground to capture the MW.

Here is a really good video of the planning to get good framing of the milkyway. Warning you could become hooked on this photography. Good luck.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=...=960#kpvalbx=1
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Re: Milky Way

Thanks John,

I only used Lightroom. I knew the attempt was almost futile because I could see how bright the sky was. But I think there is a trace of the Milky Way there and this has inspired me to travel to a more secluded location out of the town and a bit further north when the moon has waned (clear skies permitting).

I'll then do extensive bracketing and I'll also try the stacking method

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Re: Milky Way

Tonight should be a good time to photograph the milkyway in the UK between 10:30pm and 11:30pm. After 11:30pm the moon will start to pollute the dark skies. Look for the bright "star" which is Saturn due south and about 15deg horizontal at 10:30pm that is the centre of the bright bit of the milkyway. Good luck.
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Definitely better tonight without the moon; 30 seconds, ISO 6400 with the ZD 8mm f/3.5 @f/3.5.

Now even more keen to find a decent location for a serious attempt!

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Re: Milky Way

Glad to see you still experimenting Ian. It just shows how much difference the moon can make Ian. It proves that your camera can see the milkyway. From your location you may want to try the 12-40 f2.8 lens at 12mm 15secs and focus more on the milkyway rather than the surroundings. I still think your ISO is too high I would try 800 or 1600. You will see a great improvement when you get to clearer view away from local lighting.
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Glad to see you still experimenting Ian. It just shows how much difference the moon can make Ian. It proves that your camera can see the milkyway. From your location you may want to try the 12-40 f2.8 lens at 12mm 15secs and focus more on the milkyway rather than the surroundings. I still think your ISO is too high I would try 800 or 1600. You will see a great improvement when you get to clearer view away from local lighting.
Thanks I tried ISO 3200 but the 6400 version worked better in Lightroom. I have the 12mm f/2.0 so that would probably better to use than the 12-40.

Just need to find the time and the right day and conditions!

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