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E-1 - 'Not Suitable'

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This is stupid! I once did some work for a very famous picture agency, who only accepted pictures from a Canon EOS 1Ds. I don`t see how it matters what camera you use to take picture`s, as long as the picture`s are good!
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Re: E-1 - 'Not Suitable'

I like the list of recommended cameras

http://www.alamy.com/contributors/st...amera-list.asp
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Re: E-1 - 'Not Suitable'

Well it's probably not worth discussing. Alamy process a lot of pictures and have a fairly tick box approach to quality, it's basic to the business model. They are supplying a market place of bored picture editors who just want something of a certain size which will fit into a given hole in the text in order to break up a particularly wordy article.

If a camera 'fits' their arbitary criteria (pixel count etc) they recommend it, if it doesn't they don't.

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Re: E-1 - 'Not Suitable'

Spot on Nick

Why not use someone else, im currently being approved by istockphoto.com, takes a little time as you have to fill out a few forms and submit 3 sample images, I have 2 appoved 1 more and away i go
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Re: E-1 - 'Not Suitable'

Just goes to show that they don't know that it's the photographer, not the camera that makes the photo. Looks to me that they are drenched in fanboyism (is that a word?). I'd look somewhere else to sell my photos.
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Just goes to show that they don't know that it's the photographer, not the camera that makes the photo. Looks to me that they are drenched in fanboyism (is that a word?). I'd look somewhere else to sell my photos.
Well they do treat photography as commodity rather than art, but publications need a large number of 'commodity' photographs to fill the pages (compared to only one or two headline images) and Alamy ensure that those pictures meet certain basic standards so need little work by the buyers editor.

Doesn't seem to be anything to get upset about, they keep their cost down by setting mechanistic standards, and the buyer knows that the work will be to that standard which means little prep required.

I think it's called capitalism.

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Well they do treat photography as commodity rather than art, but publications need a large number of 'commodity' photographs to fill the pages (compared to only one or two headline images) and Alamy ensure that those pictures meet certain basic standards so need little work by the buyers editor.

Doesn't seem to be anything to get upset about, they keep their cost down by setting mechanistic standards, and the buyer knows that the work will be to that standard which means little prep required.

I think it's called capitalism
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Indeed. I think that it reflects a deskilled evaluation process for cost purposes.

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Re: E-1 - 'Not Suitable'

The Canon EOS-1D is on the banned list too.

Yes, it had an APS-H sesnor (1.3x cropping factor) but only four megapixels.

From the outside it looks just like today's barand new 16MP EOS-1D Mark IV

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Re: E-1 - 'Not Suitable'

Yesterday a magazine published a photo (of Who's E) I had taken several years ago with my E20 so it's all a matter of perception really.
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Re: E-1 - 'Not Suitable'

The E-500 isn't on the recommended list.
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Re: E-1 - 'Not Suitable'

I have been posting pictures to Alamy for five years. When I started (as now) the recommendation was for cameras with at least 6MP. As I was using an E1 I simply ignored this and had very few QC failures. About 18 months ago, I started to have a lot more "interpolation defect" failures from the E1, and stopped using it.

The recommendation for at least 6MP has not changed, but the QC people must now see many pictures of much higher quality.

The recommended camera list is just what it says, you can submit images from any camera you like. Using a recommended camera does not guarantee success, you still have to get the quality right.
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Re: E-1 - 'Not Suitable'

Update on my previous post:

I had missed the point here, not having seen Alamy's "Unsuitable" list. Of the cameras shown on the list, the only one that I have given up using is the E-1.

I am interested to see that my Ricoh GX100 is classed as "unsuitable" although I have had very many images from it accepted, the most recent being uploaded last Sunday..
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Re: E-1 - 'Not Suitable'

In the end, I'd be surprised if Alamy would reject an image that was clearly good enough, regardless of the source. Indeed, you could erase the exif data and do some careful post processing, and get some very good results from a three megapixel camera, depending on the subject.

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In the end, I'd be surprised if Alamy would reject an image that was clearly good enough, regardless of the source. Indeed, you could erase the exif data and do some careful post processing, and get some very good results from a three megapixel camera, depending on the subject.

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Yes indeed, this is exactly how they work. And if you read what it says about unsuitable cameras, there is no suggestion that they will look at exif data and automatically fail images from these cameras, but rather that the images will fail for technical reasons.

When I started submitting the requirements were for TIFF images and I sent these 12 at a time on CDs. It took 3-4 weeks to get them through QC. Now you can upload jpegs and get them cleared in 2-3 days.

It appears that the relative ease of submission encourages many people to upload images that fail time after time. The "unsuitable cameras" list is, I suspect, a ploy to put off incompetents who waste Alamy time, resources and money.
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