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Old 28th September 2013
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Grainy B&W Art Filter head-to-head with Silver Efex

Had a bit of time to kill today at Cressing Temple Barns whilst my wife looked around a craft fair, so I tried the Grainy B&W Art Filter and processed the developed raw in Silver Efex at home for comparison. Which effect do you like best, or do you like neither? Here are three examples.


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Re: Grainy B&W Art Filter head-to-head with Silver Efex

You can't beat a bit of black and white John. The second set works the best for my eyes, the contrast seems better. The subject matter certainly suits the monochrome treatment in any event.
I don't have any fancy programs for my B and W shots, I tend to use the in-camera settings. But that's as much to do with my lack of post-processing skills as anything else.
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Re: Grainy B&W Art Filter head-to-head with Silver Efex

I think I would like to see midway between the two John, but I think the B&W treatment only suits the first image and not the last two.

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Re: Grainy B&W Art Filter head-to-head with Silver Efex

Silver Efex Pro every time. They suited mono but I always find that the grainy filter gives a too stark result with few mid tones. SEP retains these whilst giving a bit of grit to the image.
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Re: Grainy B&W Art Filter head-to-head with Silver Efex

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Silver Efex Pro every time. They suited mono but I always find that the grainy filter gives a too stark result with few mid tones. SEP retains these whilst giving a bit of grit to the image.
I agree with Dave.
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Re: Grainy B&W Art Filter head-to-head with Silver Efex

I agree with Dave and Stephen too. It's much better.
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Re: Grainy B&W Art Filter head-to-head with Silver Efex

I prefer the Silver Efex version in each case, but then I would as I processed them to my own taste. Nevertheless I felt that the art filter made a reasonable attempt and it could be useful for someone who does not wish to do much pp or lacks software as sophisticated as Silver Efex.
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Re: Grainy B&W Art Filter head-to-head with Silver Efex

The Grainy Film Art Filter might be fixed in its output but by changing the Exposure Compensation & Contrast, the effect of the Art Filters can change & that can be a work around for some variation to the final effect. I'd be interested to see you redo one of the Grainy Film photos here (in OV3 from the RAW file) with the Exposure Compensation &/or Contrast changed to bring back some of the contrast detail to get closer to the Silver Efex output.

Of course, the B&W colour filters in the Effects will also change the output result too.
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Re: Grainy B&W Art Filter head-to-head with Silver Efex

I'm with the majority, Silver Efex Pro version for me.
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