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Seems that a deposit system will at last be initiated for plastic bottles. Hopefully it will help. Yesterday I called in at our local supermarket which is a smallish branch of Waitrose. Apart from the few loose choices, there were 25 different pack and variety types all sheathed in some kind of plastic - of POTATOES. This is bizarre, what are they thinking of - how irresponsible? Same sort of story with bananas with the vast majority only available in plastic wrapping. Grapes - same. We are now collecting the plastic from yesterday's shop and will send it to Waitrose

Sorry to grizzle but this got me steamed up and now that China is declining to take our rubbish for recycling perhaps we can stop importing so much plastic crap from them.

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Re: Plastic Bottles...........

Who is going to pay for the recycling machines?

We had a machine at Tesco, it gave clubcard points for items recycled. Then it took the items and didn't give points, then it broke, now it's gone...
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Seems that a deposit system will at last be initiated for plastic bottles. Hopefully it will help. Yesterday I called in at our local supermarket which is a smallish branch of Waitrose. Apart from the few loose choices, there were 25 different pack and variety types all sheathed in some kind of plastic - of POTATOES. This is bizarre, what are they thinking of - how irresponsible? Same sort of story with bananas with the vast majority only available in plastic wrapping. Grapes - same. We are now collecting the plastic from yesterday's shop and will send it to Waitrose

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And not before time either. Plastic has become so cheap and it suits retailers to overpackage, just as it suits them to buy everything from China.

The problem is that retailers will fight anything that they see as a potential for losing turnover, even though cutting out plastic waste might actually save them money.

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Sorry to grizzle but this got me steamed up and now that China is declining to take our rubbish for recycling perhaps we can stop importing so much plastic crap from them.
Sadly this is a problem that we have willingly and collectively created by continuing to buy not just overpackaged goods, but anything and everything that China and the Far East pumps out, without which our sad and meaningless lives just would not be complete.

(Likewise eBay and Amazon.)

If we didn't buy this crap the retailers wouldn't sell it and the Chinese wouldn't have to manufacture and export it so us.
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Re: Plastic Bottles...........

we all have a responsibility to cut down on use of plastic. Not easy I know, but there are greengrocers where loose spuds and other vegs are free from plastic.
When I was a kid, I got 3d for taking back a glass bottle.
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we all have a responsibility to cut down on use of plastic. Not easy I know, but there are greengrocers where loose spuds and other vegs are free from plastic. When I was a kid, I got 3d for taking back a glass bottle.
I remember those days. Long gone.
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we all have a responsibility to cut down on use of plastic. Not easy I know, but there are greengrocers where loose spuds and other vegs are free from plastic.
When I was a kid, I got 3d for taking back a glass bottle.
A friend and I just happened to 'come across' a glass Soda Siphon bottle. We dared each other to take it back to an Off Licence and received 7/6d!
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Re: Plastic Bottles...........

Nothing wrong with plastic as long as its clearly identified (with a moulded ID) for recycling.
We have a wheelie bin specifically for items to be recycled. I'm sure others do in other parts of the country. So why do I need to pay a deposit and take them to a bottle bank for a refund. What's wrong with the current arrangement?

If the refuge lorry can take say 500 wheelie bin loads of recyclable bottles, how much extra carbon will be emitted if the same number of households drive to a bottle bank? I don't think this has been thought through adequately.
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Re: Plastic Bottles...........

My wife recently purchased a reusable take away type cup with lid similar to the disposables commonly used by popular coffee chains. When she presents this at Costa they knock 25p off the price. Maybe this is the way forward for other types of packaging too?
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My wife recently purchased a reusable take away type cup with lid similar to the disposables commonly used by popular coffee chains. When she presents this at Costa they knock 25p off the price. Maybe this is the way forward for other types of packaging too?
That's a strange practice as it would suggest the disposable cups supplied by Costa have a commercial bulk buying in price of around 25 pence each. For a disposable cup, that is a very high commercial cost even taking the incentive to the customer into consideration. Maybe they know something we dont

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That's a strange practice as it would suggest the disposable cups supplied by Costa have a commercial bulk buying in price of around 25 pence each. For a disposable cup, that is a very high commercial cost even taking the incentive to the customer into consideration. Maybe they know something we dont

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They not only have to buy them but dispose of them too, which may cost more than buying them in from China.

I can remember my parents talking about taking jugs out into the street to buy milk from the milkman, before glass bottles became the norm.
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My wife recently purchased a reusable take away type cup with lid similar to the disposables commonly used by popular coffee chains. When she presents this at Costa they knock 25p off the price. Maybe this is the way forward for other types of packaging too?
We were in Morrisons the other day (far cheaper than Costa) and the person said it was 50p less if we wished the drink to be squirted straight into our gobs. 😜
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Nothing wrong with plastic as long as its clearly identified (with a moulded ID) for recycling.
We have a wheelie bin specifically for items to be recycled. I'm sure others do in other parts of the country. So why do I need to pay a deposit and take them to a bottle bank for a refund. What's wrong with the current arrangement?

If the refuge lorry can take say 500 wheelie bin loads of recyclable bottles, how much extra carbon will be emitted if the same number of households drive to a bottle bank? I don't think this has been thought through adequately.
Maybe because many people just throw away the plastic bottle.
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Maybe because many people just throw away the plastic bottle.
..... And also because there are so many different types of plastic in use, not all of which can be recycled.

In many cases plastic packaging material is totally unnecessary. Most fruit and vegetables have perfectly good packaging provided by nature. Do we really need to wrap them in three layers of totally unnecessary plastic just to carry them to the supermarket car park?
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Maybe because many people just throw away the plastic bottle.
I've heard that some refuse sites collect separate waste for recycling, but it all ends up in land fill.
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..... And also because there are so many different types of plastic in use, not all of which can be recycled.

In many cases plastic packaging material is totally unnecessary. Most fruit and vegetables have perfectly good packaging provided by nature. Do we really need to wrap them in three layers of totally unnecessary plastic just to carry them to the supermarket car park?
Well its hygienic - at least you don't get 101 dirty hands playing with your grapes.
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