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Pump track Afternoon (MTB)

The guys didn't have their equipment with them so it's a bit low action.
Shot with E-M1, 40-150 f2.8.









Comments and critique are more than welcome, no hard feelings!

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Re: Pump track Afternoon (MTB)

By not having their equipment with them I take it you mean helmets and other protective gear? Nevertheless they are performing some interesting manoeuvres and I take it we have more to look forward to when they are fully kitted! The location seems to be an old quarry - ideal from both the biking and photographic perspectives I suspect.

From shooting low you've got some OOF foregrounds, which is fine but for some reason it doesn't work as well with No1 as it does with the others - on this shot only I'd crop it off. There's some nice rim lighting going on in these shots, which works really well against the dark background. I'm glad you included a B&W, somehow it seems to create a more "serious" mood. I really enjoyed this set.
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Re: Pump track Afternoon (MTB)

Nice shots, Milko.

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A question please, to John, or to anyone with an artistic eye, when is it artistically pleasant to have the near and far viewpoints out of focus, with the subject inbetween in focus. I'm glad Milko posted these, it's something that's been bothering me for sometime.
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Re: Pump track Afternoon (MTB)

Hi Steve, I think John was relating to the last one mainly, I would agree to some extent to the last one. But if the bright area in the last image was darkened down some it would look a lot better and less of a distraction. Otherwise they are great sport photos which are crisp sharp in the right place and contrasty which fits the mood of the images.

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Re: Pump track Afternoon (MTB)

Nice set of opening images Milko and that looks like a nice combination.

I do use the Pany 100-300 with my EM1 for long shots but in comparison it is a slow lens - still, it does deliver great IQ.

Regarding OOF areas in images, for something like the ones Milko has published my opinion is that sports images should have the action as the main point of focus with the least amount of foreground distraction as possible to distract the viewer, I would also prefer OOF behind to make the main subject stand out more.

I do occasionally like to shoot some street images with the near and far points OOF as this can put the subject in context while still allowing them to stand out from the other areas.

These are purely my own thoughts and as photographic images are so subjective many others will have differing views - thats why we enjoy it so much.
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Re: Pump track Afternoon (MTB)

Thank you, John and good eye,
that is indeed an old quarry - Lee Quarry near Bacup, Lancashire!

Yes, protective gear, that's what I meant, it is 'safety first' when mountain biking after all,
otherwise things get really messy really quickly.

I like the B&W as well, I thought of including one or two more, but wanted to keep the image count to minimum.

I'll play around with the crop and the exposure of that foreground element as Dave suggested.

I think you have a point Ian, I would have probably kept it clean/cleaner
if there was more action perhaps. In MTB terms there isn't much going on.

Unfortunately I don't have a reference when it comes to lenses, so I trust reviews/forums,
so far I'm happy with the 40-150, and I'll take your word for the Panny.

Whew, it looks like I have survived the first round, hopefully it is something I can build on to!
Looking forward to the weekend now
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Re: Pump track Afternoon (MTB)

I find the graffiti a bit distracting. I'd also rather see the riders riding into the frame rather than centered or riding out of the frame.
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Re: Pump track Afternoon (MTB)

I like #3. As well as mono, hte pose and lack of graffiti make it a far better shot, IMHO.
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Re: Pump track Afternoon (MTB)

I didn't pay attention to the graffiti before you mentioned it...and now it's quite annoying,
can't stop looking at it. Thanks!

I'll watch out for that kind of stuff next time, thank you!
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Re: Pump track Afternoon (MTB)

I like the graffiti, makes the images more gritty.
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