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Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

Interesting points.

http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/...try-point.html

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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

Well I don't think he points out the great pixel density on the 20 MP sensors making it ideal for bird photography with the right lens.
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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

He also misses out the fact that not everyone wants to lug around a huge Canikony DSLR and lens. I moved to M43 from Canon (7D2 & 100-400L2) purely because of the loss of bulk and weight and so far have no regrets (other than perhaps they evf!). Loving it, below the bar or not.
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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

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Okay, there was no official announcement, just a clear trend: the bottom end of dedicated cameras is now 24mp. Moreover, with the likely upcoming mirrorless announcements from Canon and Nikon, the true consumer bottom the big makers really want to establish is 24mp full frame (EF, FE, FX) at a price point of around US$2000 initially.
??? US$2000 is the consumer entry point ???
Nope, not even close. I've never spent and probably never will spend that kind of money on a body and I consider myself a keen amateur not a general "consumer".
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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

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??? US$2000 is the consumer entry point ???
Nope, not even close. I've never spent and probably never will spend that kind of money on a body and I consider myself a keen amateur not a general "consumer".
Nobody pays $2000 for an E-M1 Mark II; $1600 or less is the market rate.

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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

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Nobody pays $2000 for an E-M1 Mark II; $1600 or less is the market rate.

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The Panasonic G9 is 1199 at WEX at the moment so wouldn't be surprised if the E-M1 II drops in price to match it before long.

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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

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The Panasonic G9 is 1199 at WEX at the moment so wouldn't be surprised if the E-M1 II drops in price to match it before long.

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Just wait 5 years and you'll get it for less than 300 pre-owned.
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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

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Nobody pays $2000 for an E-M1 Mark II; $1600 or less is the market rate.

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I can’t speak authoritatively for the US prices, Ian, but to be fair to old Hogey the M1ii was around 1850 on the street in the U.K. from mid-2017 until the beginning of 2018. That must equate to around $2000 and, allowing for his usual gentle twisting of the truth to suit his argument, it’s price probably matched the introductory price of the new Aiii over that period.
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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

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Nobody pays $2000 for an E-M1 Mark II; $1600 or less is the market rate.

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My point remains $2000 or 1600 is not the "consumer entry point" for cameras.

My first serious digital camera was a 300 DSLR + kit lens (bought used for 150).
Second was an E-PL5 with 2 kit lenses for 600.
Third was an E-M10 Mki - 330.
My most recent E-M10 Mkii was 275 body only.
I can't see myself every paying that kind of money for a body though I have no issue that others will.



1600 for a body then 500 more for a 12-40 F2.8 lens is not a "consumer entry point".
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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

Pointless pixel-chasing. What matters is not the number of pixels you have, but the quality of those pixels. For the vast majority of people, the snapshooters, a phone camera is good enough. For the more serious photographers who have more understanding it's not down to pixel count. It's using the kit you're comfortable with and which gets you the results you want. I have no wish (or ability!) to lug a huge camera around and that's the major reason why I bought into Olympus back in the 70s. When I used film I chose Agfa APX25 and Kodachrome 25 for their quality but would sacrifice quality for ISO when I needed it because ISO25 is, let's be honest, a bit limiting!
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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

Pretty much what I'd expect from an obviously pro Nikon guy. Just set the bar at a point so that you can make an argument and be very black and white about it. He is right about one thing though where is the long zoom (1" or M4/3s?) compact to replace the Stylus 1. Definitely a hole I feel Olympus should fill and could fill easily with their existing tech just rebundled.
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Pretty much what I'd expect from an obviously pro Nikon guy. Just set the bar at a point so that you can make an argument and be very black and white about it. He is right about one thing though where is the long zoom (1" or M4/3s?) compact to replace the Stylus 1. Definitely a hole I feel Olympus should fill and could fill easily with their existing tech just rebundled.
Another hole is the Long zoom equivalent to the Pany 100-400...…..

Pany lens is great, but lacks the compatibility with the body. Which makes the 40-150 pro really work well.
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Re: Thom Hogan slams Olympus M 4/3

Yep I agree with that too Mark, that Panny lens is on my potential shopping list unless Oly do bring one out. Interesting comment actually I only thought it was the pro capture L setting that wasn't compatible are there more issues?
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