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A Hairy Bug

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Taken with E420. Has been sharpened once, 'sharpen' not 'unsharp mask' . This is a 1024 x 768 crop from full image, about 25%.

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Re: A Hairy Bug

Can I recommend Unsharp mask instead preceded with some noise reduction..
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Re: A Hairy Bug

I will try that Alf ... just got to see if Paint Shop Pro x2 has noise reduction ...


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Re: A Hairy Bug

It does, that's what I use for PP. It's under the adjust menu then one step noise removal.
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Re: A Hairy Bug

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It does, that's what I use for PP. It's under the adjust menu then one step noise removal.
Ah good someone better placed to offer PP advice how would you sharpen it in PSPX2.
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Re: A Hairy Bug

OK - here is 'Hairy Bug 2'.

This is the same image and crop as the first but with noise reduction applied first then unsharp mask. (Paintshop Pro X2)



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Re: A Hairy Bug

I hope you don't mind I have had a play.

This is what I have done;

I used the straighten tool and put the line from the bum of the fly to the centre of its eye to make the image more central and change the compositon. The straighten tool is a slanty diamond between two straight lines in the tool bar.

I then applied an unsharp mask.

I then ran noise reduction.

Adjust menu > Brightness & Contrast> Shadow 50 Midtone 35 Highlight 0

Adjust Menu > Sharpen

Then from the tool bar select the Sharpen tool which is a black circle on a white background adjust the size of the sharpen tool using the size scale slider under the menus. I used 60. Click several times over the fly.

This is what I came up with.



Your results should be much better if you follow this as this is from a 148kb image taken from this thread.

It maybe worth reducing the hue and saturation a little too.

If you want it removing please say and I will delete.

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Re: A Hairy Bug

Thanks Tim

Your variation is certainly more 'vivid' than mine, if I can put it that way.

I am not sure about the tool descriptions you have given - are they for Paintshop Pro or Photoshop / Lightroom instead ? I certainly do not recognise them at the moment.

Q: Is there any difference by applying the unsharp mask before noise reduction rather than vice -versa, or do both methods give the same end result ? I only ask as there seems to be some white bits or 'ghosting' around the front legs of the bug like it has been over sharpened or something ?

I am following the discussion here with interest, as I am still learning how to get the best results from my images and camera gear.

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Re: A Hairy Bug

I use paint shop pro .

It's a lot more vivid because it is a low res image I have used hence the ghosting and white bits.

I have found that running NR first loses some of the detail.
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Re: A Hairy Bug

The noise removal has certainly been effective in both re-processed versions, but I find David's a little flat (lost contrast) compared to the original and Tim's seems over-sharpened. Maybe somewhere between the two would be good?
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Re: A Hairy Bug

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The noise removal has certainly been effective in both re-processed versions, but I find David's a little flat (lost contrast) compared to the original and Tim's seems over-sharpened. Maybe somewhere between the two would be good?
I agree you made a huge leap forward David now work on the sharpening.

I am not a PSP user but look at this

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Re: A Hairy Bug

Hope you don't mind, David, but I've had a go too. First I ran it through Dfine 2.0 noise reduction on auto, the I slightly tweeked levels and added +20 contrast in Elements 10. Finally sharpened very slightly (radius 0.4, amount 43).

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Re: A Hairy Bug

Boy ! A whole flock of Hairy Bugs !!

I am pleased that the image is giving everyone some fun playing with it. Some of the results would look great in print. Shall we ask for a vote on the best if we reach page 3 ?

I quite like taking these macro shots because you never know what detail will emerge when they are shown 'large size'.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what sort of bug it is ? I do not think it is a hoverfly because it is not 'stripey'.

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