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The penalty of the digital camera - and photography courses...

This little picture sums up what the effect of photography courses and an electronic shutter is:

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Re: The penalty of the digital camera - and photography courses...

16000 shots this year already phew that's some shooting. Is that just those you've kept?
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16000 shots this year already phew that's some shooting. Is that just those you've kept?
I'm not very good at discarding photos, so I have discarded the OOF disasters but there's a lot of dross in there. I have done three photography courses which total around 6000 photos and a couple of air shows with the rapid fire shutter! For another 4000!
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Re: The penalty of the digital camera - and photography courses...

I remember my first digital wedding, I took far too many and spent an age in front of the computer editing. My second was better, only about 400 shots. Now if I am asked, I try to keep it below 100, but not so easy.
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Only a fool breaks the three roll rule...
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Re: The penalty of the digital camera - and photography courses...

On another forum a while ago the "pro" wedding photographers seemed quite proud that they shoot over 3000 shots at a wedding. When I questioned why so many they didn't like it, they said it was normal. At my daughters wedding the photographer took about 500 and that seemed about right for a full day behind the shutter. What is normal ?
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Only a fool breaks the three roll rule...
And that is what I did with film, 3 rolls of 15 on, 45 pic, 30 good ones in an album.
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Re: The penalty of the digital camera - and photography courses...

but in those days it wasn't mandatory to have pictures of the bride's gown hanging from a coat hanger, or pictures of the table toys etc etc
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Re: The penalty of the digital camera - and photography courses...

My E-410 has just passed the 4,000 shots mark and my E-3 has 5,000 on it. So that must average to about a thousand shots a year. And for probably 98% of those the camera was on a tripod. I don't think either body has ever been off single shot. The E-410 paid for itself with the fourth shot it took.
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Re: The penalty of the digital camera - and photography courses...

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Walti's no fool - just has big rolls
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Re: The penalty of the digital camera - and photography courses...

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I'll finish Graham's quote, it's obviously truncated. I think he meant to say 'three roles a month, four at most'. It takes me an absolute age to shoot a role of 36 and I've got loads waiting in the fridge/freezer.
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Re: The penalty of the digital camera - and photography courses...

As a retired pro wedding photographer (pre digital) I can tell you that at an average wedding shoot that began with the bride getting ready and progressing though to the arrival at church, the ceremony, the bridal party shoot at some picturesque location and finally the reception, etc., I usually shot 5 rolls 35mmX36 exp. Fujicolor Portrait NPH 400iso with a Nikon F4s.

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Analogue rocks!

These pics would look far better if the sprocket holes, or at least the film type, appeared in the prints.
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Re: The penalty of the digital camera - and photography courses...

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And that is what I did with film, 3 rolls of 15 on, 45 pic, 30 good ones in an album.
I think that is roughly what we had. 4 rolls of 12 = 48, with thirty of the best in the album.

I can distinctly remember the photographer reassuring us that he wouldn't miss anything for the sake of another roll of film, but that it probably wouldn't be necessary. In the event one of our photographs ended up in the photographer's shop window in Durham for a couple of years.

I was very particular about the use of medium format for our wedding, as many Pro wedding photographers were switching to 35 mm at the time (1992), and were starting to get into machine gun mode even then.

We had also heard horror stories from our Parish Priest of weddings being ruined by photographers who took so long taking large numbers of photographs that the wedding breakfast was two hours late. That to me isn't 'professional' at all.
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