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Dare to be different.
State that so many entries (in whatever categories) are absolutely worthy of 'first prize', that the only (honest/sensible/fair) thing to do is to the 'finalists' into a hat. Whom so ever I draw from said hat WINS
Alternatively in the spirit of true democracy wherein all men are deemed equal in the sight of god, I could declare that every single entrant is a winner and the prize shall be divided equally among all. As there are precisely 200 entries and the prize is only $600, then each recipient would take home $3.00

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It all depends how cunningly you word it! As for the Post -Modernists their work is imaginative, exciting, full of deep hidden meaning (or whatever). Those who do just miss out will of course be agrieved or disappointed anyway but it is a case of damage limitation!

Everybody knows that judges are idiots, got no idea, or useless unless one is picked the winner in which case they are of course experts with a finely tuned artistic taste! Charm them, make everybody feel a winner!

PS I have no idea what a Post-Modernist is!
A Post-Modernist is a "well connected" cerebral entity whose painting technique relies not on an ability to draw but rather upon a set of geometrical instruments with which he/she constructs images comprehensible unto him/herself alone. Like connoisseurs of wine they talk-in-tongues with frequent lofty references to the upper palette and render fawning deference to their influential patrons!
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A Post-Modernist is a "well connected" cerebral entity whose painting technique relies not on an ability to draw but rather upon a set of geometrical instruments with which he/she constructs images comprehensible unto him/herself alone. Like connoisseurs of wine they talk-in-tongues with frequent lofty references to the upper palette and render fawning deference to their influential patrons!
LOL. So that could be summed up by saying "pretentious t****" and/or clever people who know how to massage their patrons ego and the money out of the patrons wallet Emperors Clothes style.
Either way a bit of guff like I said about imaginative, exciting, deep hidden meanings and so on without saying what the deep hidden meanings are hints that you understand should suffice. Then move rapidly on!

I must say I did not realize how serious this all is but $600! Not quite local camera club! Good luck oh brave soul!
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Pretentious? Moi?

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You must let us know how you get on Mark. That is if you can of course
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LOL. So that could be summed up by saying "pretentious t****" and/or clever people who know how to massage their patrons ego and the money out of the patrons wallet Emperors Clothes style.
Either way a bit of guff like I said about imaginative, exciting, deep hidden meanings and so on without saying what the deep hidden meanings are hints that you understand should suffice. Then move rapidly on!

I must say I did not realize how serious this all is but $600! Not quite local camera club! Good luck oh brave soul!
"The Emperor's Clothes", you got it Mike!

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You must let us know how you get on Mark. That is if you can of course
I will certainly let you see some pictures of the event replete with commentary, Phill.
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I hope you don't have problems with the getaway car this time.

Just make sure you park it for a quick getaway.

Oh, and check your brakes before you need to use them.
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BOOOOM!
You forgot to remind me to also take a mirror stick
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Maybe a sword stick would be useful too!
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Alternatively in the spirit of true democracy wherein all men are deemed equal in the sight of god, I could declare that every single entrant is a winner and the prize shall be divided equally among all. As there are precisely 200 entries and the prize is only $600, then each recipient would take home $3.00

Think my idea is better
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As the 'day of reckoning' draws nigh I grow evermore anxious as to how to handle the preamble without harvesting the sour grapes of wrath of the losers.
Are there any conciliatory tones a judge could adopt to mitigate their disappointment / resentment? If so I'm open to suggestions but frankly, in the mirror of introspection I see myself as the victim of my own folly in accepting the role in the first place. Not only have I put myself in the hot seat, but also precluded my own work from the judging. I guess that every entrant hangs in suspense as the winners are announced in the hope that he/she will be among the anointed. All I can hope for is that in the eyes of potential buyers I will be mistaken for an "authority" whose over-priced work may well be a worthwhile investment!
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As the 'day of reckoning' draws nigh I grow evermore anxious as to how to handle the preamble without harvesting the sour grapes of wrath of the losers.
Are there any conciliatory tones a judge could adopt to mitigate their disappointment / resentment? If so I'm open to suggestions but frankly, in the mirror of introspection I see myself as the victim of my own folly in accepting the role in the first place. Not only have I put myself in the hot seat, but also precluded my own work from the judging. I guess that every entrant hangs in suspense as the winners are announced in the hope that he/she will be among the anointed. All I can hope for is that in the eyes of potential buyers I will be mistaken for an "authority" whose over-priced work may well be a worthwhile investment!
I think if I found myself in this unenviable position I would approach it just as I would if I had $600 to spend in an art and photographic gallery.

I don't think there is any point in pretending to be anyone but yourself, or to see the king's new suit of clothes when he clearly doesn't have a stitch on!

As for conciliatory remarks, kind honesty has to be the best approach, pointing out strengths and weaknesses in exhibits as honestly but kindly and constructively as possible.

The danger with trying to view these things with 'modern eyes' is that you will find it impossible to be consistent. That is much easier to pull off with kind honesty.

With luck it should be an enjoyable and inspiring experience for everyone; yourself included, which is perhaps the best and most conciliatory approach to take.

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I am reminded of the story of the judge who said of a mountain landscape shot that it would have been much better if it had been taken from a couple of feet further back upon which a voice from the back said "If I had been a couple of feet further back I would have been 300 feet lower down!"
Anyway hopefully it will not be the terrible ordeal you are dreading and as I said earlier best of luck and hope all goes well.
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Nigel and Mike, thanks to you both for some constructive advice. I have drafted a short preamble which I will PM to you both for comment should you wish.
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Rather you than me, Mark, although I'm sure you will do an excellent job!
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Re: I'll be the Judge

You will only please the winner(s).
So, have confidence in yourself.
Walk through all the entries reasonably fast.
The good ones will standout which should be about 5% of the total.
Then go over these again and reduce it to about 5.
Then figure out what YOU like and why.
Mention those on the short list. (As in they are not far off the mark)
For the vast majority if you can say something positive about an entry to the artist (if they ask you) that usually helps.
The arts association have picked you as a judge as they obviously value you judgement.
Have fun with it.
I'm speaking as someone who has entered quite a few competitions at my camera club and usually done 'not bad' and only rarely done well.
I remember reading an account of a competition written by the editor of the BJP (British Journal of Photography) where there were 6 or so judges ( he was one) having to decide the winner of a very large competition. They came up with an overall winner which no judge had picked as their best choice.
Over here there is an obvious one on TV which is the Countryfile Wildlife Calendar which gets well in excess of 20000 entries. Three judges figure out the final 12 in a day! And then ask viewers for their overall pick.
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