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Albert Bridge

First time posting here, and actually first time I took the 7-14mm 2.8 out the house in Battersea

Let me know what you think, which you like or don't like and why. And perhaps opinions on how you think the images could improved.

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Re: Battersea Bridge

Well done on your first posting!

The photographs of the bridge appear unsharp; probably caused by slight camera movement (camera shake) during the exposures.

Image Stabilisation can help, but you really need to use a stable tripod for these longer exposures.

The second photograph would also benefit from a slightly lower angle, so showing more of old Father Thames and less of the sky.

I like the three photographs of the (I assume) apartment buildings, which are quite abstract. You might like to look at these in B&W as they have strong shapes.

I would probably have timed the shots to avoid any passing planes, but I realise this can be difficult in London.
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Re: Battersea Bridge

I quite like the plane and those curvy buildings are really neat.
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Re: Battersea Bridge

You have a good eye for composition. Look forward to some more.
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Re: Battersea Bridge

Yes agree with what has been said. the bridge shots look a little hazy for some reason, not as crisp as they could be. Did you use a tripod?

Curvy buildings look great, the jet adds interest, and at the same time distracts from the main subject. On the fence on that one.
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Re: Battersea Bridge

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Well done on your first posting!

The photographs of the bridge appear unsharp; probably caused by slight camera movement (camera shake) during the exposures.

Image Stabilisation can help, but you really need to use a stable tripod for these longer exposures.
I guess it is pretty windy by the river so that may be why the tripod wasn't as stable as it should be.

The second photograph would also benefit from a slightly lower angle, so showing more of old Father Thames and less of the sky.
I couldn't go any lower without capturing the balustrade, which I didn't want, and my tripod couldn't go any higher

I like the three photographs of the (I assume) apartment buildings, which are quite abstract. You might like to look at these in B&W as they have strong shapes.

I would probably have timed the shots to avoid any passing planes, but I realise this can be difficult in London.
Yes apartment building indeed, cool I will play with B&W effects. And I actually captured the plane on purpose so the building would create frame around the central object haha.
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I quite like the plane and those curvy buildings are really neat.
Thanks Phil, very kind words
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Yes agree with what has been said. the bridge shots look a little hazy for some reason, not as crisp as they could be. Did you use a tripod?
I did use a tripod as well as using my phone to control the shutter, so I wouldn't move the camera does the aperture play a part? as this was a 15s exposure at F22.

Curvy buildings look great, the jet adds interest, and at the same time distracts from the main subject. On the fence on that one.
The plane is small enough to not be that bigger distraction
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I did use a tripod as well as using my phone to control the shutter, so I wouldn't move the camera does the aperture play a part? as this was a 15s exposure at F22.


To answer your question - Yes, Aperture set at f22 on a M4/3 camera is definitely into diffraction blur territory. That might be whats making your bridge shots look hazy. But if it was also a windy day then a 15s shot may have been troubled by tripod shake.

That said they are very nice shots.
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To answer your question - Yes, Aperture set at f22 on a M4/3 camera is definitely into diffraction blur territory. That might be whats making your bridge shots look hazy. But if it was also a windy day then a 15s shot may have been troubled by tripod shake.

That said they are very nice shots.
Ahhh right, I will try a lower aperture next time and see if that is the problem.

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To answer your question - Yes, Aperture set at f22 on a M4/3 camera is definitely into diffraction blur territory. That might be whats making your bridge shots look hazy. But if it was also a windy day then a 15s shot may have been troubled by tripod shake.

That said they are very nice shots.
Never really understood this diffraction/blur bit. Used to understand that the f stop governed Depth of field, and of course linked with exposure. F16 was for fullest DOF and F 2.8 was for minimum DOF.

What's changed.....................
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Never really understood this diffraction/blur bit. Used to understand that the f stop governed Depth of field, and of course linked with exposure. F16 was for fullest DOF and F 2.8 was for minimum DOF.

What's changed.....................
Sensor size affects diffraction which impacts sharpness.
This site provides a useful explanation

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...ensor-size.htm
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