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Re: EXIF problems on E-Group Challenge entries

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Hi Ian,

How did you check the Exif data, I couldn't seem to get it to display?

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Hi John -

I hope you had a good break - I like the pic.

I can of course carry out reducing the image size etc as I have explained earlier in the thread - but like your downsized pic you have not reduced it to be able to submit in any of the challenges ie approx 200Kb. If you check your pic it is 800X600 - however it is 479Kb.

Thanks for giving Elements 5 a go on my behalf.

Is the difference between Elements 5 + 6 worth the upgrade?

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Yes, everything is normal, including the exif data.

So one can only presume that there is a setting in Barr1e's installation of Elements 5 which is messing with the exif retention...

Ian

Ian - not a problem here as I can do exactly the same as John - the problem lies in the size of the file for uploading to the site.

I told John I liked his pic - but I can tell you I think it is a great shot.

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Re: EXIF problems on E-Group Challenge entries

Here is an image reduced in Elements 5 to be in the boundaries of approx 200Kb.

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It is in fact 237Kb - however to get it to that size it reduces the pic to 450X360.
[Edit: The exif info has been retained - the only time exif info is lost is when one uses the save for web utility.]

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ps I think we should now let this item drop before we all lose our hair.

Thanks eveyone.
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Re: EXIF problems on E-Group Challenge entries

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Ian - not a problem here as I can do exactly the same as John - the problem lies in the size of the file for uploading to the site.

I told John I liked his pic - but I can tell you I think it is a great shot.

Regards. Barr1e
Hi Barrie,

I think I've cracked it, and learnt something in the process, too.

After you click on "Save As" a jpeg options box appears with the quality level defaulted to "12 Maximum." I've just resized the same image and when this box appeared I altered the jpeg quality settings to "6 Medium." This has reduced the file size to 133kb but retained the dimensions of 800 x 600 pixels at 72ppi. It seems that we were resizing correctly but not compressing the jpeg file enough. 133 kb still leaves room for a little extra quality within the 200kb limit. Trial and error may result in an optimum quality setting of around "7" although each image will of course vary slightly depending on how much detail is in the scene.

Hope this helps, and thanks for the kind comments about my picture.

As regards the differences between Elements 5 and 6, I find the larger preview boxes in the convert to black and white option a real boon and the new "Adjust Sharpness" feature is easier to use and sometimes gives a better result than Unsharp Mask. Other than that, there's very little difference, at least amongst the facilities of the program that I use.

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Hi Barrie,

I think I've cracked it, and learnt something in the process, too.

After you click on "Save As" a jpeg options box appears with the quality level defaulted to "12 Maximum." I've just resized the same image and when this box appeared I altered the jpeg quality settings to "6 Medium." This has reduced the file size to 133kb but retained the dimensions of 800 x 600 pixels at 72ppi. It seems that we were resizing correctly but not compressing the jpeg file enough. 133 kb still leaves room for a little extra quality within the 200kb limit. Trial and error may result in an optimum quality setting of around "7" although each image will of course vary slightly depending on how much detail is in the scene.

Hope this helps, and thanks for the kind comments about my picture.

As regards the differences between Elements 5 and 6, I find the larger preview boxes in the convert to black and white option a real boon and the new "Adjust Sharpness" feature is easier to use and sometimes gives a better result than Unsharp Mask. Other than that, there's very little difference, at least amongst the facilities of the program that I use.

John
By George he's got it!

Thank you John.

Also thanks for the comments regarging Elements 6.

Regards. Barr1e

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By George he's got it!

Thank you John.

Also thanks for the comments regarging Elements 6.

Regards. Barr1e

Hurrah! Well and truly cracked

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By George he's got it!

Thank you John.

Also thanks for the comments regarging Elements 6.

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Glad I could help, Barrie.

In the process I've learnt quite a bit about Exif data (thanks Ian) and Jpeg compression, two aspects that I didn't fully understand. That's the great thing about this forum, we help each other and learn more ourselves at the same time.

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