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Old 23rd June 2018
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One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

..... is that, in order to allow Subaru to place a full-sized spare wheel in the boot, the level of the floor had to be raised. Unfortunately, they forgot to place a lip in front of the back door..... Be very careful if you place your cameras in the boot...... Remember to open the boot very carefully, otherwise your cameras could fall out and land on the ground in a position designed to cause maximum damage, even if the camera is in a case. This is what my 12-100mm looked like after it had landed at just the right angle to cause maximum damage.

I am going to have to invest in a boot lining with lip. - This is now the third time I have done it. My insurance company is sure to start whingeing soon.



I have tried to remove the destroyed filter, but without much luck. Time for another trip to Andersons Camera Repair. Fortunately the camera was not damaged. The photo was taken with the 12-40mm PRO which usually lives on my "spare" E-M1 (Mk I).
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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

Ouch Is it just the filter that's broken (apart from being stuck)?

I only put my camera bag behind the drivers seat (in either of our Foresters), or if there are passengers then at least directly behind their seat, with typically other items there as well, but accidents can still happen though. We do have a boot lining in the 2010 model, but it is really only for containing liquid & other materials etc. (dirt, sand & suchlike) though. My 2002 model doesn't.

I feel your pain & hope it is fixed OK & at a reasonable cost.

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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

It looks like it is only the filter. I am hoping that none of the bits of broken glass has scratched the lens. If so, then I'll only have to buy a new filter and pay for the filter removal and a bit of cleaning. If not, then I guess that I'll be in for about $700 or so. My insurance excess is $300.

At least I still have the 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO to use until the 12-100mm is repaired.

My Forester is a late 2016 model and the boot floor is significantly raised.
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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

I'd be inclined to remove the filter myself.

If you use a 'junior' hacksaw to put a cut into the filter holder (without cutting into the lens), you could use a screwdriver to split or stretch the holder so it can be removed.

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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

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It looks like it is only the filter. I am hoping that none of the bits of broken glass has scratched the lens. If so, then I'll only have to buy a new filter and pay for the filter removal and a bit of cleaning. If not, then I guess that I'll be in for about $700 or so. My insurance excess is $300.

At least I still have the 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO to use until the 12-100mm is repaired.

My Forester is a late 2016 model and the boot floor is significantly raised.
I have filters on most of my lenses normally, but I haven't got one for my 12-40 Pro (yet), but I am leaving the hood on forward though (with a lens cap, so long as I remember), in case of a bump. I've cut back the hood release button flush too so it doesn't get released in my bag etc., but that doesn't help for the 40-150 Pro lens though so it has a filter & I try to make sure a lens cap goes on as it goes in the bag. My 60mm macro lens doesn't have a filter either.
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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

A tip I came across years ago for removing a sticking filter was to lightly press the filter ring against the sole or heel of your shoe and try unscrewing it. The problem with gripping the ring with your fingers is the tighter you grip, the more you squeeze (and deform) the ring and the harder it sticks! It worked for me once.
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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

You could always try the 'jam jar lid removal' tip of a chunky elastic band stretched around the filter. It adds a surprising amount of grip.

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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

Ouch, I felt that....

Hope it is just the filter and no other damage. Alas my thoughts are that if the drop was bad enough to do that, what else has been damaged...….

Only one way to find out...Good luck
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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

Thanks all. I have tried most of your suggestions for removing the filter, but without much success, although I have managed to remove all the glass particles. The lens doesn't appear to be damaged, but the filter must be wedged in fairly tightly. I'll take it in to Andersons for repair and check out this morning (Monday).
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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

Having had estate cars for some years, I’ve tended to keep a plastic garden gravel tray in the boot, as it’s useful for mucky boots, odds & ends that need containing, and even camera gear!
As an example of a similar product the attached webpage should give an idea - http://stewart-garden.co.uk/products...m/gravel-tray/
Hope it’s fairly straightforward removing the filter, and limited damage to the lens but the thought of dropping that lens would certainly turn my stomach!
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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

During the course of yesterday evening, I managed to remove all the broken glass from the lens and could see that the lens glass appeared to be undamaged. Try as I could, I couldn't remove the filter ring. - Well it was actually a high quality glass filter protector, rather than a filter.

First thing this morning I took the lens down to Andersons in Capalaba, who very kindly removed the ring, did a bit of checking and said that the lens appeared to be undamaged. - Free of charge. I must be a good customer. It appears that the filter protector had done its job and self-destructed to protect the lens.

During my lunch break, I wandered down to CameraPro in the Queen Street Mall and bought a Hoya HD Filter Protector for $93.50 (about £52.42)

Apart from additional petrol and parking costs, the repair costs were just that.... $93.50! I was verrrrry lucky.
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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

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It appears that the filter protector had done its job and self-destructed to protect the lens.
Excellent when things work as they should... I've had a similar "save" myself which is why i am one of the "protector on every lens" brigade.

Oh.. and I may be a Tad biased

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One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....
its not a Land Rover (To be honest the Forester is a very capable vehicle)

Glad it all worked out

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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

Glad to know the lens survived OK then.

BTW, Subaru Foresters do have anchor points (rings) in the back, so maybe linking with straps might be useful.

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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

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(To be honest the Forester is a very capable vehicle)
Oh I do know that. - That's why I bought it. It is one of the very few SUV vehicles that can go where "real" 4x4 vehicles can go. I do have two criticisms:
  • The lack of a lip at the edge of the boot.
  • Although it does have a fair bit of clearance, I would still like a bit of under body protection.

It is excellent on sand. We had great fun on Fraser Island a couple of months back and will be going back again in September.
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Re: One of the problems with the Subaru Forester.....

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Oh.. and I may be a Tad biased



its not a Land Rover (To be honest the Forester is a very capable vehicle)

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