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Re: Long Dilemma - please help

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I have the Panny 100-400 and for most purposes find it is better than the Oly 300+1.4. Mine are used mainly for wildlife, which they do very well.
That's interesting, do you have any sample shots you took with the 300+TC?
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Re: Long Dilemma - please help

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I have the Panny 100-400 and for most purposes find it is better than the Oly 300+1.4. Mine are used mainly for wildlife, which they do very well.
I would be interested to know in what way you feel it is better. Do you mean versatility being a zoom or something else? Not that I have the funds to buy one at the moment!
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Re: Long Dilemma - please help

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Are you looking at the Canon L 100-400mm Mk1 or Mk2 lens? By repute, the Mk2 is noticeably sharper, though the Mk1 is no slouch. But I think the Mk2 will be much more expensive than the Panasonic 100-400mm and then you will need to to buy an adapter that supports at least aperture control and maybe AF to use it on your m4/3 camera (which camera do you have BTW?)

I have the Panasonic 100-400mm and am very happy with it for motorsports with my OMD EM1 Mk1, even at 400mm. However, perfect sharpness is not essential for me as I am using slowish shutter speeds to keep a sense of motion.

I also have the Mk1 Canon 100-400 and Metabones adapter AF. The AF with the Canon lens via the Metabones on the EM1 is atrocious. Far too slow to catch anything moving.

Consequently, if you need AF on m4/3 I recommend the Panasonic. On the other hand, if you need really fast and reliable AF, you should get the new Canon 100-400 and use it with your 5Dmk2 and crop.
If CAF is not a must have and long focal length is a main priority another option is the Canon 400/5.6. Very sharp and faster than the Panasonic. Lack of IS is not an issue as the IBIS does this, could even be an advantage as these lenses can be found at attractive price points. Lastly it can be used with 1.4X extender with AF still working. The drawback is you will need to buy the metabones adapter which is not exactly cheap.
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Re: Long Dilemma - please help

A sample from Oulton park on the 27th August. Taken at 1/320s ISO200, f10.



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Another sample, same settings

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Re: Long Dilemma - please help

If you are coming over to M'sia, there is a 300/4 on sale in the used market here. This chap have been posting since 14 Aug 2017 but there is no takers yet.

This is the latest post from him. 12 Sep 2017 Olympus SELL OLYMPUS 300MM F4 IS PRO ,RM8000 COD KL 0123932033 BOX SET LIKE NEW - Simon Ng <simonbign@gmail.com>
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Re: Long Dilemma - please help

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A sample from Oulton park on the 27th August. Taken at 1/320s ISO200, f10.



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Another sample, same settings

Wow these look great many thanks for posting
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Re: Long Dilemma - please help

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I would be interested to know in what way you feel it is better. Do you mean versatility being a zoom or something else? Not that I have the funds to buy one at the moment!
Versatility mainly. I can't detect any difference in IQ. If it's purely birds then the 300/4+1.4 gives the best reach and you need it to fill the frame. For animals, on safari for example, the 100-400 is better and still good for birds.
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Re: Long Dilemma - please help

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Versatility mainly. I can't detect any difference in IQ. If it's purely birds then the 300/4+1.4 gives the best reach and you need it to fill the frame. For animals, on safari for example, the 100-400 is better and still good for birds.
Thanks for your reply.
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Re: Long Dilemma - please help

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Folks,

I am looking for a super telephoto decision between the Panasonic 100-400 and an adapted canon 100-400.
You need to consider what functions of the lens you will have when adapted. Focus and/or aperture may not work.

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You need to consider what functions of the lens you will have when adapted. Focus and/or aperture may not work.

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Plus, having used a 100-400 L in the past you may need to buy three (although you can return the worst two for a refund).
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Re: Long Dilemma - please help

I had the same dilemma and did a test with Canon and metabones. Conclusion, the same expressed in a previous post, very slow so unusable for moving subjects.

At the end, I got the 40-150 pro and the 300 pro plus the 1.4x adapter. Not yet tested, just acquired.
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