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Elements upgrade with Nik collection?

I’m currently running an ancient version of elements (10) with the free Nik collection plugin. I’m thinking of upgrading and one of the options is just moving to the latest elements 18. However does anyone know if my current download of the free version of Nik plugin will still work? I don’t want to have to move to the new paid version, just for the occasional use of silver efex for B&W conversions, which is mostly what I use it for.

I’m not 100% set on the new elements though, but I have no experience of other software options.
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Re: Elements upgrade with Nik collection?

Why do you feel the need to 'upgrade'? Remember that PSE 11 introduced a different user interface, which you may or may not like.



I still use PSE 2 most of the time because it seems to do what I want more easily and quickly than later versions.
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Re: Elements upgrade with Nik collection?

You make a good point Mike, and there’s probably a bit of the grass is always greener in there!

I’d like to be able to focus stack easily, but don’t think 18 does that well anyway. Panorama stichtching is sometiing id like to do too. Also the adjustment layer options seem a little limited in 10 (but may be the same in 18!)

A bit more research is in order I think!!
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Re: Elements upgrade with Nik collection?

For 'stitching' I use the excellent Microsoft Image Composite Editor (ICE), which is a free download from Microsoft and integrates with file manager, for easy selection of the images to be stitched.



For macro stacking, I use 'CombineZP' which does a very good job but has a rather basic user interface. Alan Hadley's (the author) website has now closed so you have to be careful where you download from since some sites bundle unwelcome malware.


The basic tools in PSE have not changed in decades but early versions have limited memory management and don't understand disks larger than 1000GB. They try to keep sales going by adding bells and whistles, which may or may not be useful, and by making each new raw converter incompatible with older versions. I use a separate raw converter or you can convert raw files to Adobe DNG, to overcome this problem
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Re: Elements upgrade with Nik collection?

I too use Elements 10 as it has all the tools I need.

95% of my edits are with FastStone or on an iPad.
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Re: Elements upgrade with Nik collection?

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For 'stitching' I use the excellent Microsoft Image Composite Editor (ICE), which is a free download from Microsoft and integrates with file manager, for easy selection of the images to be stitched.



For macro stacking, I use 'CombineZP' which does a very good job but has a rather basic user interface. Alan Hadley's (the author) website has now closed so you have to be careful where you download from since some sites bundle unwelcome malware.


The basic tools in PSE have not changed in decades but early versions have limited memory management and don't understand disks larger than 1000GB. They try to keep sales going by adding bells and whistles, which may or may not be useful, and by making each new raw converter incompatible with older versions. I use a separate raw converter or you can convert raw files to Adobe DNG, to overcome this problem

Thanks Mike, I’ll take a look at those.

Have you seen the 3rd party elements plugin (paid for) that unlocks a load of hidden features from the full photoshop?
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Re: Elements upgrade with Nik collection?

Never tried it, I have the free Nik collection and Elements 2018.
Will give it a go and report back with my findings, use them exclusively with Lightroom
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Iím currently running an ancient version of elements (10) with the free Nik collection plugin. Iím thinking of upgrading and one of the options is just moving to the latest elements 18. However does anyone know if my current download of the free version of Nik plugin will still work? I donít want to have to move to the new paid version, just for the occasional use of silver efex for B&W conversions, which is mostly what I use it for.

Iím not 100% set on the new elements though, but I have no experience of other software options.
Just tried the one I use most, Silver Efex Pro2 and its working fine
Appears under the filter drop down list as Nik Collection, so yes it appears the free ones are ok
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Re: Elements upgrade with Nik collection?

Thinking of trying the On1 program to replace Lightroom and Photoshop but find my machine will not operate openGL which is needed for On1 i would need to upgrade my video card ( on motherboard) for more power etc.

Can anyone tell me if I should go that route I do not want to change my desktop machine.
Happy to fit a new low profile 2 Gb plce card as machine is small form size.

I would like to be sure On1 is worth it before I make changes.

NOTE: I cannot use On1 trial as machine cannot run open GL.

Using Lightroom 4 and Photoshop CS6 at present.

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Re: Elements upgrade with Nik collection?

I watched a YouTube vid (fstoppers channel) about the new Alien Skin exposure 4 stand alone software that’s just out. It looks really good, seems to be targeted at LR users.
Looking at the website I don’t think it will blend images though
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Re: Elements upgrade with Nik collection?

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Thinking of trying the On1 program to replace Lightroom and Photoshop but find my machine will not operate openGL which is needed for On1 i would need to upgrade my video card ( on motherboard) for more power etc.

Can anyone tell me if I should go that route I do not want to change my desktop machine.
Happy to fit a new low profile 2 Gb plce card as machine is small form size.

I would like to be sure On1 is worth it before I make changes.

NOTE: I cannot use On1 trial as machine cannot run open GL.

Using Lightroom 4 and Photoshop CS6 at present.

Thanks for any help

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Ed, why not try the free Affinity Photo trial, think itís 14 days. Eighteen months ago, I replaced CS6, which I do not miss when I migrated to Apple. I use Silver Efex Pro with AF frequently. Thereís a good video on YouTube by Chris Williams showing the installation routine for Nik.

There are plenty of official AF training videos on YouTube/Vimeo that are excellent.

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Thanks will do. Time is something I do not mind using.

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