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street / candid photography etiquette - from the other side

So yesterday I was just walking back to the office with my lunch, waiting to cross the road at a pelican crossing. As the green man flashed and I set off to cross, this guy (possibly student) with a big DLSR next to the crossing triggered off a set of three or four shots of me as I was crossing the road.

I've no idea why he wanted a picture of me (middle aged guy with a straw hat on), or what he planned to do with them, so I turned back and asked him to delete the pictures.

He then started the old "public space" argument that he can photograph what he likes. Anyway, I asked him again, and eventually he agreed that as I had asked politely he would delete them. Whether he did or not I'm not sure.

Any thoughts? Other than he should have had an OMD with silent shutter mode on?
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Re: street / candid photography etiquette - from the other side

Grumpy old man!

My own take is that I always ask permission of anonymous subjects - even if it’s only a wave of the camera and a tentative thumbs up.

I get quite grumpy when people take my photo without asking.
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Re: street / candid photography etiquette - from the other side

Ask yourself; how many times each day your image is captured, by all the "security" cameras? Do you ever consider asking for those images to be deleted.

We have become a continuously surveilled society, while we are in both "public" and Private spaces. It's something you have to accept or invest in a disguise...
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Re: street / candid photography etiquette - from the other side

"surveilled"???

I know what you mean though.

Personally I'm fine with people taking shots with me in within the current UK legal framework.
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Re: street / candid photography etiquette - from the other side

We are in the middle of the Humanity in Action challenge. May he was one us of getting a photo for the comp....

I would not object to my photo being taken , I might ask where it was going to be shown, or what for. (Unless I was up to mischief of course, which I never get the chance to do)

On the other hand, I find it difficult to wave a camera in an strangers face, I value my front teeth.

But I am quite happy to try to take street photos from afar, with the 40-150mm. I suppose one should ask, but the people are usually to far away.........

Enough street photos are taken and displayed.........

Bit personal I guess...........
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Re: street / candid photography etiquette - from the other side

Mark I can't see why you want them deleted. From the sounds of things he wasn't invading your personal space, or anything. You were just an anonymous character in his images.
As a photographer I would have expected you to be more tolerant than the average Joe.

I don't think I've recently been the main subject for a photograph from someone I don't know, (My modelling days finished about 40 years ago, and it was never a common thing) but despite my now less than photogenic figure I still often end up in the background for press/TV shots.
Even with my name sown into the outside of my Jacket I'm pretty anonymous, just occasionally commented upon by friends.
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Re: street / candid photography etiquette - from the other side

A couple of weeks ago, I bumped into Dougie Wallace in the East End. Dougie’s star is in the ascendant at the moment, we had a brief chat and what with my deafness and his Glaswegian accent, I don’t recall anything other than that he had featured in a BBC program that I had already seen.

It’s here and worth a look. He is quite unrelenting and when I saw him, he had a camera fitted with two flashlights. He took photos maybe a foot away from people’s faces and marched away not giving the bemused subject a chance to protest.

He gets some great images but doesn’t connect with his subjects’ humanity which is where I think he misses out. It takes all sorts.

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Re: street / candid photography etiquette - from the other side

I take the points about being on cctv but what I didn't like was the possibility I might end up in a magazine or in a newspaper when I was just crossing a road minding my own business - perhaps because I was looking at my phone or wearing a trilby?

Yes when you are a street performer, or perhaps are part of a crowd at an event then I think you can expect to perhaps be captured on camera. Often at football matches the club photographer may take a crowd pic and I later spot myself, but that seems fair game to me.
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Re: street / candid photography etiquette - from the other side

Your name's Victor Meldrew and I claim my £5!

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Re: street / candid photography etiquette - from the other side

I take thousands of street images per year and Iíve never been asked to delete one, although Iím perfectly happy to do so if asked. I can recall a couple of people over the past 5-6 years asking what I was doing, and when I explained I was an amateur photographer documenting life in the locality they both asked me for copies of their image: I have some nice cards with my email address and name, and they both emailed me and I sent jpegs.

A small proportion of people have spotted that I might have done so (from their look in my image when looked at on screen) but Iím sure that the great majority arenít aware.

So, Iíd say a lot of this is down from the photographerís point of view to attitude and technique. As you say, blasting away with a DSLR is just daft if your aim is to capture natural images.

From the subjectís, I can only say that youíre unusual! However I donít personally understand your problem with him doing that.

Iím not sure what in would have done. Either ignored him, or maybe had a chat and explored why he was being so intrusive (and counterproductive to his likely aims).

I should perhaps add that I always aim to take candid shots that respect my subject and I never photograph children, the ill or desperate, homeless, drunk or drugged, or anyone looking remotely Ďdangerousí.

Dougie (Glasweegee) is a great guy, whose images have a very strong social documentary thread. Heís much more than some pushy pap with a flash gun.

Have a look at the work of Bruce Gilden if you really want to see confrontational anger in a street photographer.
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Re: street / candid photography etiquette - from the other side

I never photograph strangers (I don't have the confidence to do so and I respect their privacy too much) so I would be annoyed if somebody took a photograph of me without my permission. I am not sure that I would challenge them but to the best of my knowledge the situation hasn't occurred so far. I have always hated having my photograph taken and will do everything possible to avoid it. There again, I am a bit of a misanthrope which is why I photograph birds. Much less hassle than people.

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