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Standard zoom and mid range Lenses with focal lengths larger than 12mm, but no longer than 60mm, includes standard zooms and portrait primes plus some macro lenses.

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First outing for the 25mm f/1.2

I succumbed to a GAS attack and fell prey to the new 25mm f/1.2 lens. It is a chunky beast, similar in size to the 12-40. I had a chance to try it out last weekend when some musicians were playing around town in some pretty gloomy pubs. Here are a couple of sample which are not very interesting pictorially, but there is only so much you can do in these conditions and the music was good.

Sample shot wide open, almost the full frame (just cropped a bit to straighten it):



ISO 1600, 1/60 at f/1.2

You can't tell much at this size, and checking fine details is a bit tricky at ISO1600 but I reckon it has done pretty well in difficult circumstances. I still had to push it nearly a stop and lift the shadows in Lightroom! One thing that really impresses me is that flare seems very well controlled. There are loads of bits of glass in there, and we have two bright (but not bright enough!) light sources in the frame. There is a little bit of blooming on one of the lights but I can't spot any rogue internal reflections and there doesn't seem to be much veiling either.

Another one with the light just out of frame, which is normally about the worst place for flare - same settings, this is the full frame, you can see from the light stand at the top how close to the edge the lamp was:



Conclusion: it's expensive, and big and heavy by m43 standards, but I'm jolly pleased with it.

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Re: First outing for the 25mm f/1.2

ISO 1600, 1/60 at f/1.2 - I'm guessing the actual scene would look quite dark compared to the lightness in your images?

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Re: First outing for the 25mm f/1.2

It's all subjective, Ian - our eyes can accommodate a huge range of conditions. I think the polite word for the lighting here is "intimate". It was actually very pleasant for just sitting and listening, and very far from the worst for photography.

This is why I would like to see a nice clean ISO 6400

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Re: First outing for the 25mm f/1.2

Well done. As far as I am concerned they still need to push the ISO capabilities higher as these tricky conditions are far from unusual.
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Re: First outing for the 25mm f/1.2

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Well done. As far as I am concerned they still need to push the ISO capabilities higher as these tricky conditions are far from unusual.
I find that in-camera JPEGs at very high ISOs (6400 and beyond) are quite difficult to match, let alone better, no matter how hard I try when processing RAW files. With the E-M1 II even ISO 25600 is, I believe, usable, at lower resolution, whereas in certain earlier models ISO 12800 would be suffering am insoluble colour shift.

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Re: First outing for the 25mm f/1.2

Indeed so. I don't really feel the need for even higher ISOs, but would very much like cleaner performance from the ones we have. With the E-M1 I'll go to 3200 if necessary, which isn't too bad, and 6400 if in really dire straits but the results are pretty awful - it will be great if we can improve things in that range.

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Re: First outing for the 25mm f/1.2

Ah, we crossed in the post Ian. I will have to look at in-camera JPEGs - but I worry that they may not respond so well to pushing around. I usually try to expose so as not to lose too many highlights, which means they tend to look "underexposed", then push exposure and lift the shadows in post. I'm not sure whether JPEGs would be as amenable to that as the raw files. Only one way to find out

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Re: First outing for the 25mm f/1.2

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I find that in-camera JPEGs at very high ISOs (6400 and beyond) are quite difficult to match, let alone better, no matter how hard I try when processing RAW files.

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Agreed, If I've shoot at high ISO I can get better results doing a conversion from RAW using Viewer than any other software I have.
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Agreed, If I've shoot at high ISO I can get better results doing a conversion from RAW using Viewer than any other software I have.
Yes, Viewer is basically using the same engine as the camera.

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Re: First outing for the 25mm f/1.2

Well, I've had it for two weeks now - and still can't register it on MyOlympus! It refuses the serial number and doesn't appear on the pulldown list of lenses. I wonder if it escaped somehow before the official launch date

Whatever, it's still gorgeous (as long as you don't mind a bit chunky).

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Re: First outing for the 25mm f/1.2

Can't wait until they release a 17/1.2.
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It would be a bit big for you, Paul

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Re: First outing for the 25mm f/1.2

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Well, I've had it for two weeks now - and still can't register it on MyOlympus! It refuses the serial number and doesn't appear on the pulldown list of lenses. I wonder if it escaped somehow before the official launch date

Whatever, it's still gorgeous (as long as you don't mind a bit chunky).

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Received mine yesterday, took advantage of the 20% sale Clifton Cameras were running, 879.00 was TOOoooo tempting to resist no matter how hard I tried. Actually I didn't try at all, resistance was futile.

I went to register it and it is still not listed on the 'My Olympus' site, guess they will eventually get around to it.

It is rather large by M4/3 standards but as you say John "it's still gorgeous".

I must admit I have been rather extravagant during the last week and am firmly back in the Olympus camp. Time for my Leica's to go now, if I am going to continue to shoot film and I am, it will be 120 on my Rolleiflex for those 'special occasions' , digital is too convenient for the rest .

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Time for my Leica's to go now, if I am going to continue to shoot film and I am, it will be 120 on my Rolleiflex for those 'special occasions' , digital is too convenient for the rest .

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You'll regret it Simon, think seriously. Whatsmore, the Delta in value of Leica MPs is only heading in one direction, with a positive coefficient.

Just strap a 35 'cron and set to f8 - it's perfect for street photography.

If I haven't swayed your decision, give the camera to me on a loan basis and I'll keep the mechanism exercised to prevent grease separation. :-)
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You'll regret it Simon, think seriously. Whatsmore, the Delta in value of Leica MPs is only heading in one direction, with a positive coefficient.

Just strap a 35 'cron and set to f8 - it's perfect for street photography.
I here what you are saying Steve and as you know I'm a Leica rangefinder die-hard but I do believe 'the time has come' to say farewell, as they say 'every dog has its day'. Either the Leica or the Rolleiflex will have to go and to be honest of the two only the Rolleiflex offers something 'potentially' better in print. The 6x6cms negs are really something to behold, and transparencies .... well thats another ballgame ..... nail the exposure and WOW!

My eyesight is not what is was either, I'm struggling to focus the RF with precision. Yes I can zone focus ...' f8 and be there' , but the times I want shallower DOF I am really struggling with my eyes. For now at least I seem to be reasonably OK with the Rolleiflex.

The sale of the Leica will also somewhat help to replenish my depleted bank account for I have rather succumbed to GAS of late, since Christmas acquiring not one but now two em1 with hld7 grips, a 40/150 Pro with TC, a 300 F4 and also this 25 f1.2 not to mention the Pen-F and a string of primes I got on Black Friday

As I said ... "I'm firmly back in the Olympus camp" and to be honest it feels good... very good

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