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View Poll Results: Are you getting fed up with Brexit and should we go back to discussing other things ?
YES - Close the thread 21 47.73%
NO - Keep the debate going on for eternity 23 52.27%
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Simply a failed attempt by a group of odious, treacherous, back stabbers to force her resignation to suit their own agendas.

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Got it in one!

Some say she needs the party behind her but she should frisk them first!

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Got it in one!

Some say she needs the party behind her but she should frisk them first!

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Using industrial grade rubber gloves I would hope.

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Using industrial grade rubber gloves I would hope.

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Standard part of Tory MP kit surely.
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Anybody seen Michael Gove?

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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

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It did not give her power to make those remainers, resigners, would-be leaders and other disaffected individuals vote in favour. The only way for the Brexit deal to be delivered is via a parliamentary vote. It is not in the gift of the Prime Minister.

What is not available cannot be delivered.

All of the above is about the deal.

A no-deal Brexit can still be delivered, so she cannot have failed to deliver Brexit.

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Exactly! Whoever the Prime Minister is the deep and intransigent divisions within Parliament in general and the Tory party in particular will remain. For this very reason, if she cannot persuade Parliament to endorse her negotiated deal it is unlikely they will sanction a no-deal Brexit either. It is stalemate with no obvious solution.
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….... Who?
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Simply a failed attempt by a group of odious, treacherous, back stabbers to force her resignation to suit their own agendas.

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And those agendas all feature Brexit - either for or against!
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

I wonder if her victory might convince some MPs to back her on her deal who otherwise might not have done? If she comes back from Brussels with a few more concessions then it's just possible she'll get it through.

If it's still a dead duck in January them I think another referendum is the only way out of the cul de sac.
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If it's still a dead duck in January them I think another referendum is the only way out of the cul de sac.
What is the point of a referendum if Parliament insists on having the final say?

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What is the point of a referendum if Parliament insists on having the final say? Harold
At this point, what is the point of having a parliament?

I'm all for dissolving parliament... preferably in a swimming pool full of acid.
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The next referendum would need to be legally binding.
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  • 11:14
    German parliament opposes renegotiations

    Jenny Hill
    BBC Berlin correspondent

    The German parliament has agreed to oppose reopening any negotiations on the Brexit deal.
    A majority of MPs voted in favour of a motion which states that ‘it would be an illusion to hope that a rejection of the deal could lead to renegotiations'.
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Another weasel.

He can't possibly be a weasel... everyone knows, weasels are weasily seen.
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