Olympus UK E-System User Group
Olympus UK E-System User Group

Join our unique resource for Olympus Four Thirds E-System DSLR and Pen and OM-D Micro Four Thirds photographers. Show your images via our free e-group photo gallery. Please read the e-group.uk.net forum terms and conditions before posting for the first time. Above all, welcome!


Go Back   Olympus UK E-System User Group > Out of Focus area > The lounge

The lounge Relax, take a break from photo and camera talk - have a chat about something else for a change. Just keep it clean and polite!

View Poll Results: Are you getting fed up with Brexit and should we go back to discussing other things ?
YES - Close the thread 21 47.73%
NO - Keep the debate going on for eternity 23 52.27%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #2851  
Old 13th December 2018
Harold Gough Harold Gough is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Reading UK
Posts: 5,252
Thanks: 53
Thanked 711 Times in 655 Posts
Likes: 35
Liked 2,782 Times in 1,527 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jax View Post
Simply a failed attempt by a group of odious, treacherous, back stabbers to force her resignation to suit their own agendas.

Jax
Got it in one!

Some say she needs the party behind her but she should frisk them first!

Harold
__________________
The body is willing but the mind is weak.
  #2852  
Old 13th December 2018
Jax Jax is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: UK
Posts: 452
Thanks: 59
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Likes: 229
Liked 118 Times in 78 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harold Gough View Post
Got it in one!

Some say she needs the party behind her but she should frisk them first!

Harold
Using industrial grade rubber gloves I would hope.

Jax
The Following User Liked This Post:
pandora (13th December 2018)
  #2853  
Old 13th December 2018
TimP TimP is online now
Full member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Deepest Darkest Dorset
Posts: 1,436
Thanks: 37
Thanked 43 Times in 42 Posts
Likes: 253
Liked 549 Times in 363 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jax View Post
Using industrial grade rubber gloves I would hope.

Jax
Standard part of Tory MP kit surely.
  #2854  
Old 13th December 2018
Harold Gough Harold Gough is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Reading UK
Posts: 5,252
Thanks: 53
Thanked 711 Times in 655 Posts
Likes: 35
Liked 2,782 Times in 1,527 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Anybody seen Michael Gove?

Harold
__________________
The body is willing but the mind is weak.
  #2855  
Old 13th December 2018
Zuiko's Avatar
Zuiko Zuiko is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dunmow, Essex
Posts: 21,596
Thanks: 1,953
Thanked 3,063 Times in 2,381 Posts
Likes: 3,202
Liked 4,278 Times in 2,011 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harold Gough View Post
It did not give her power to make those remainers, resigners, would-be leaders and other disaffected individuals vote in favour. The only way for the Brexit deal to be delivered is via a parliamentary vote. It is not in the gift of the Prime Minister.

What is not available cannot be delivered.

All of the above is about the deal.

A no-deal Brexit can still be delivered, so she cannot have failed to deliver Brexit.

Harold
Exactly! Whoever the Prime Minister is the deep and intransigent divisions within Parliament in general and the Tory party in particular will remain. For this very reason, if she cannot persuade Parliament to endorse her negotiated deal it is unlikely they will sanction a no-deal Brexit either. It is stalemate with no obvious solution.
__________________
John

"A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there — even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau
  #2856  
Old 13th December 2018
Zuiko's Avatar
Zuiko Zuiko is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dunmow, Essex
Posts: 21,596
Thanks: 1,953
Thanked 3,063 Times in 2,381 Posts
Likes: 3,202
Liked 4,278 Times in 2,011 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harold Gough View Post
Anybody seen Michael Gove?

Harold
….... Who?
__________________
John

"A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there — even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau
  #2857  
Old 13th December 2018
Zuiko's Avatar
Zuiko Zuiko is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dunmow, Essex
Posts: 21,596
Thanks: 1,953
Thanked 3,063 Times in 2,381 Posts
Likes: 3,202
Liked 4,278 Times in 2,011 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jax View Post
Simply a failed attempt by a group of odious, treacherous, back stabbers to force her resignation to suit their own agendas.

Jax
And those agendas all feature Brexit - either for or against!
__________________
John

"A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there — even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau
  #2858  
Old 13th December 2018
pdk42's Avatar
pdk42 pdk42 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Leamington Spa
Posts: 5,345
Thanks: 364
Thanked 1,178 Times in 882 Posts
Likes: 129
Liked 5,630 Times in 1,813 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

I wonder if her victory might convince some MPs to back her on her deal who otherwise might not have done? If she comes back from Brussels with a few more concessions then it's just possible she'll get it through.

If it's still a dead duck in January them I think another referendum is the only way out of the cul de sac.
__________________
Paul
E-M1ii, Pen-F and too many lenses
flickr
Portfolio Site
Instagram
  #2859  
Old 13th December 2018
pdk42's Avatar
pdk42 pdk42 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Leamington Spa
Posts: 5,345
Thanks: 364
Thanked 1,178 Times in 882 Posts
Likes: 129
Liked 5,630 Times in 1,813 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harold Gough View Post
Anybody seen Michael Gove?

Harold
Another weasel.
__________________
Paul
E-M1ii, Pen-F and too many lenses
flickr
Portfolio Site
Instagram
The Following User Liked This Post:
Bengeo (13th December 2018)
  #2860  
Old 13th December 2018
Harold Gough Harold Gough is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Reading UK
Posts: 5,252
Thanks: 53
Thanked 711 Times in 655 Posts
Likes: 35
Liked 2,782 Times in 1,527 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by pdk42 View Post
If it's still a dead duck in January them I think another referendum is the only way out of the cul de sac.
What is the point of a referendum if Parliament insists on having the final say?

Harold
__________________
The body is willing but the mind is weak.
  #2861  
Old 13th December 2018
Wally's Avatar
Wally Wally is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Land of the Prince Bishops
Posts: 3,702
Thanks: 245
Thanked 1,085 Times in 678 Posts
Likes: 509
Liked 1,418 Times in 712 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harold Gough View Post
What is the point of a referendum if Parliament insists on having the final say? Harold
At this point, what is the point of having a parliament?

I'm all for dissolving parliament... preferably in a swimming pool full of acid.
__________________
It's not what inspires us that is important, it's where the journey takes us.

Wally and his Collie with our Oly bits & bobs

The Following Users Liked This Post:
MJ224 (13th December 2018), pandora (13th December 2018), TimP (13th December 2018), wornish (13th December 2018)
  #2862  
Old 13th December 2018
pdk42's Avatar
pdk42 pdk42 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Leamington Spa
Posts: 5,345
Thanks: 364
Thanked 1,178 Times in 882 Posts
Likes: 129
Liked 5,630 Times in 1,813 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harold Gough View Post
What is the point of a referendum if Parliament insists on having the final say?

Harold
The next referendum would need to be legally binding.
__________________
Paul
E-M1ii, Pen-F and too many lenses
flickr
Portfolio Site
Instagram
  #2863  
Old 13th December 2018
Wally's Avatar
Wally Wally is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Land of the Prince Bishops
Posts: 3,702
Thanks: 245
Thanked 1,085 Times in 678 Posts
Likes: 509
Liked 1,418 Times in 712 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

  • 11:14
    German parliament opposes renegotiations

    Jenny Hill
    BBC Berlin correspondent

    The German parliament has agreed to oppose reopening any negotiations on the Brexit deal.
    A majority of MPs voted in favour of a motion which states that ‘it would be an illusion to hope that a rejection of the deal could lead to renegotiations'.
__________________
It's not what inspires us that is important, it's where the journey takes us.

Wally and his Collie with our Oly bits & bobs

  #2864  
Old 13th December 2018
TimP TimP is online now
Full member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Deepest Darkest Dorset
Posts: 1,436
Thanks: 37
Thanked 43 Times in 42 Posts
Likes: 253
Liked 549 Times in 363 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harold Gough View Post
Anybody seen Michael Gove?
He’s behind you!

Oh yes he is.
  #2865  
Old 13th December 2018
Wally's Avatar
Wally Wally is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Land of the Prince Bishops
Posts: 3,702
Thanks: 245
Thanked 1,085 Times in 678 Posts
Likes: 509
Liked 1,418 Times in 712 Posts
Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Quote:
Originally Posted by pdk42 View Post
Another weasel.

He can't possibly be a weasel... everyone knows, weasels are weasily seen.
__________________
It's not what inspires us that is important, it's where the journey takes us.

Wally and his Collie with our Oly bits & bobs

Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
We're doomed! Harold Gough The lounge 11 26th January 2017 04:44 PM
Captain F. J. Walker Ricoh Foto Fair 2 13th April 2015 05:59 PM
Doomed, the whole World is doomed! (Political) Harold Gough The lounge 93 29th December 2014 01:40 PM
Why MFT is doomed - report mike_j The lounge 20 21st January 2014 04:49 PM
Doomed to failure David Morison Foto Fair 3 5th September 2012 08:00 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:45 AM.


© The Write Technology Ltd, 2007-2018, All rights reservedAd Management plugin by RedTyger