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The mighty 12-100

I went for a walk in yesterday's lovely late autumn weather and took the 12-100. It's a fantastically versatile lens and the results never disappoint:


Moon Rise at Sunset by Paul Kaye, on Flickr


Trees in Recession by Paul Kaye, on Flickr


A Fine Afternoon by Paul Kaye, on Flickr


Tree with a View by Paul Kaye, on Flickr
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Re: The mighty 12-100

Magnificent landscapes, great light.
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Magnificent landscapes, great light.
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Re: The mighty 12-100

Very nice compositions all of them. Can't pick a favourite.
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Re: The mighty 12-100

Lovely set. I was deeply sceptical about the 12-100 when it was first rumoured and then announced. But Olympus actually did it - a 24-200 equivalent lens sans compromise!
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Lovely set. I was deeply sceptical about the 12-100 when it was first rumoured and then announced. But Olympus actually did it - a 24-200 equivalent lens sans compromise!
My only complaint is the size. But for a 24-200 equiv I guess I can't complain too much. I'm going through a zoom phase at the moment. My landscape bag is now the 8mm FE, 8-18 and 12-100. Almost nothing I can't do with that landscape-wise.

In fact, I'm thinking that those lenses plus the following primes is really all I need (oh and the 40-150 plus TC):

- 17mm f1.8 (everyone needs a small 35mm equiv)
- Sigma 30mm f1.4 (superb lens that delivers excellent results)
- 75mm f1.8 (unsurpassed for low-light stage/theatre etc)

I have too many other primes that I hardly use. Keep watching the "For Sale" section if you want a deal on any of these:

- 12mm f2 (I hardly ever shoot it at f2)
- 25mm f1.8 (too much overlap with the Sigma 30mm)
- 45mm f1.8 (too much overlap with the Sigma 30mm)
- 60mm f2.8 macro (I don't do enough macro to justify it - I have the Raynox 250 which works very well).

I think I might use the funds to buy the new Sigma 56mm f1.4. It looks an excellent lens that's actually smaller than the 30mm but with a lot more blur potential (probably similar to the 45mm f1.2 but for less than half the price). Or maybe the 12-40 to put in the bag with the Pen-F once the above primes are gone!

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Re: The mighty 12-100

Totally agree with you, Paul, about the 12-100 lens, it really is the best.
Your pictures show not only what the lens can do but how well you do it too. Lovely pictures, every one of them.
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Re: The mighty 12-100

I agree too Paul and was equally sceptical at first. As you say the weight is the only issue but I've sort of got used to it now. Lovely images to illustrate your point.
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Re: The mighty 12-100

I love all of these, especially the first. Great light.

Paul I think is illustrating here something that this lens did for me - it encouraged me to look for and take many more telephoto landscapes. Previously with a standard zoom that ended at 35 or 40mm, its enough of a hassle to switch to the tele (or it’s pi$$ing down with horizontal rain) that you don’t do it.

It is still marketed and often spoken of as an ideal travel lens, but although it’s OK for that as long as I take a fast prime as well, it really comes in to its own for handheld, tripod-free landscape use, especially in windy/wet/dusty environments. Yes, it’s big and heavy, but the ensemble’s a lot lighter than any kit that has to include a tripod.
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I love all of these, especially the first. Great light.

Paul I think is illustrating here something that this lens did for me - it encouraged me to look for and take many more telephoto landscapes. Previously with a standard zoom that ended at 35 or 40mm, its enough of a hassle to switch to the tele (or it’s pi$$ing down with horizontal rain) that you don’t do it.

It is still marketed and often spoken of as an ideal travel lens, but although it’s OK for that as long as I take a fast prime as well, it really comes in to its own for handheld, tripod-free landscape use, especially in windy/wet/dusty environments. Yes, it’s big and heavy, but the ensemble’s a lot lighter than any kit that has to include a tripod.
Were these handheld? even more remarkable. Lovely images Paul.

(I've sometimes used my old FT 50-200 to attempt telephoto landscapes, from a tripod. Doesn't have the stabilisation of course.)
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I love all of these, especially the first. Great light.

Paul I think is illustrating here something that this lens did for me - it encouraged me to look for and take many more telephoto landscapes. Previously with a standard zoom that ended at 35 or 40mm, its enough of a hassle to switch to the tele (or it’s pi$$ing down with horizontal rain) that you don’t do it.

It is still marketed and often spoken of as an ideal travel lens, but although it’s OK for that as long as I take a fast prime as well, it really comes in to its own for handheld, tripod-free landscape use, especially in windy/wet/dusty environments. Yes, it’s big and heavy, but the ensemble’s a lot lighter than any kit that has to include a tripod.
I agree with that Mark - I do find myself taking landscapes at 100mm - something I would seldom have done at 200mm back in my Canon FF days.

I also agree that it's better as a landscape than a "travel" lens. Its use as the latter is compromised somewhat by its size. I'd prefer something much smaller as a travel kit.

In fact, my rambling above about selling off some lenses and getting the 12-40 is something I'm going to do. My default travel kit is the Pen-F plus 12, 17 and 45 primes. But, in truth I seldom use these at their max f-stop (and in particular hardly ever with the 12mm) and changing lenses becomes something of a pain. I can take the same bag with the 12-40 + 17 and I suspect I'll miss fewer opportunities by having the zoom.

Meanwhile, the E-M1ii + 12-100, 8-18 and 8mm FE is the landscape bag.

So much choice really - the Oly m43 system really is a delight.
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Re: The mighty 12-100

How does the 12-100 compare, size and weight-wise, with the FT 12-60?
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How does the 12-100 compare, size and weight-wise, with the FT 12-60?
If you include MMF-3 with the 12-60 then they're almost identical in size but the 12-100 is lighter:

12-100 561g / D 78mm / L 117mm
12-60SWD 575g / D 79mm / L 99mm
MMF-3 100g / D ? / L 19mm
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Re: The mighty 12-100

Interesting, thanks. I have the 12-60 and the 50-200 FT lenses but seldom use them because of the size and weight - plus the slow jittery focussing though as I mostly do landscape that's no big deal. They are both excellent lenses, maybe a trip to a dealer sometime to compare the 12-100 is in order. I haven't looked at the 12-40 as 40 is just too short for me, my most-used lens by far is the mFT 12-50 but I'd like something faster and with a bit more at the long end.
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Were these handheld? even more remarkable. Lovely images Paul.

(I've sometimes used my old FT 50-200 to attempt telephoto landscapes, from a tripod. Doesn't have the stabilisation of course.)
Yes Rob, all handheld. But the shutter speed was pretty high in all of them. I've managed sharp shots at 8s with the 12-100 on the E-M1ii.
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