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EM10 Mk 2 upgrade

Do forgive me if this question has been asked before but I couldn't find any relevant threads.
I own an EM 10 Mk2. I noticed yseswterday that an online firm is currently selling a new EM5 Mk2 for about 450 and just wonder whether it is worth selling my EM-10 and buying the EM-5 and what advantages there might be.
My main subjects is are landscape and street photography. I would be grateful for any advice.
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Re: EM10 Mk 2 upgrade

Splash, dust, freeze proof
Flip out screen
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Re: EM10 Mk 2 upgrade

I don't think the flip-out screen can be described as an "advantage"
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Re: EM10 Mk 2 upgrade

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I don't think the flip-out screen can be described as an "advantage"
Sorry Paul I had forgotten how vocal about that =Marmite
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It's the one thing I miss about my E-620!
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Re: EM10 Mk 2 upgrade

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I don't think the flip-out screen can be described as an "advantage"
I would add that any rear screen on a camera could be considered a disadvantage - it's a distraction from taking / making pictures. Get rid of them.
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I would add that any rear screen on a camera could be considered a disadvantage - it's a distraction from taking / making pictures. Get rid of them.
Then how would you access the menu's and change the settings?

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Then how would you access the menu's and change the settings?

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Steve's a back to basics guy Dave. His ideal digital camera has no screen on the rear, has a memory card that fills up after 36 pictures and he won't load the images he takes onto the computer before he's posted the card to a friend and waited a few days for it to be returned! At this stage it's a bonus if all the photos are fogged because he left the memory card on the window ledge for the weekend!
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Steve's a back to basics guy Dave. His ideal digital camera has no screen on the rear, has a memory card that fills up after 36 pictures and he won't load the images he takes onto the computer before he's posted the card to a friend and waited a few days for it to be returned! At this stage it's a bonus if all the photos are fogged because he left the memory card on the window ledge for the weekend!
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Then how would you access the menu's and change the settings?

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Check out the Leica MD, a step back to the future, as the advert proclaims.
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Steve's a back to basics guy Dave. His ideal digital camera has no screen on the rear, has a memory card that fills up after 36 pictures and he won't load the images he takes onto the computer before he's posted the card to a friend and waited a few days for it to be returned! At this stage it's a bonus if all the photos are fogged because he left the memory card on the window ledge for the weekend!
Obviously I was stating with my tongue in cheek, as it were, however there is a serious aspect. A rear LCD screen can be a distraction for certain genres, eg street photography. I know from personal experience that it's so tempting to chimp the last shot and miss the next. I've done it. It takes discipline and I can see the benefit of a swivel screen that can be reversed to impede chimping. Of course you could switch off the screen, but it means more button presses to make it operational again. But it goes further than this, that being all the information displayed in the viewfinder, again a real distraction.
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Re: EM10 Mk 2 upgrade

Right. Er......thanks.
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Right. Er......thanks.


I bet that you're glad that you asked now!
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Do forgive me if this question has been asked before but I couldn't find any relevant threads.
I own an EM 10 Mk2. I noticed yseswterday that an online firm is currently selling a new EM5 Mk2 for about 450 and just wonder whether it is worth selling my EM-10 and buying the EM-5 and what advantages there might be.
My main subjects is are landscape and street photography. I would be grateful for any advice.
Seriously...

- For street photography then E-M10ii is probably better. The tilt-only screen means that shooting unnoticed from the hip is simple and easy. Doing the same with an E-M5ii is harder since orientating the screen for downward viewing means flipping it out to the side - making the camera twice as wide and twice as conspicuous, not to mention awkward to handle.

- For landscapes the E-M5ii might offer something extra using the HiRes shot mode. However, you'll need a very good tripod and ideally no wind. I've used HiRes a few times for landscapes but the results are inconsistent - you really do need a very solid platform to get the best out of it. I've recently started doing more stacking in PP based on a short burst of shots in normal (no HiRes) mode. It's almost as good in practical terms as using HiRes.

In IQ terms there's nothing to choose between them. The E-M10ii is an excellent camera - probably the best value for money in the line-up. The only reason to upgrade would be one of:

- Hi Res mode (if you take shots where it can be applied).

- Weather sealing.

- Slightly better IBIS.

- Able to take a bigger grip with additional battery pack.

- Prefer/need the bigger viewfinder (E-M5ii has larger magnification but they're both the same resolution). Also worth noting if you wear polarising sunglasses is that the E-M10ii's finder is OLED and so will work in any orientation whilst the E-M5ii's is LCD so it will darken when turned into portrait mode and you're wearing sunglasses.

- Need a mic input jack - might be important if you're into video.


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Re: EM10 Mk 2 upgrade

I'd add build quality. IMO the E-M5 MkII is about as good as it's got for Olympus MFTs. I'd say it's even better than the E-M1 MkII because the memory card door lets that body down (slightly).
And if you like a 'beautiful' shutter sound the E-M5 MkII is king
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