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How Low Can Thugs Get ?

What would forum members consider a suitable sentence if those responsible were found guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt ?

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Re: How Low Can Thugs Get ?

I would leave it to the courts to determine what a suitable sentence was.

Clearly there is something horrible here and on the face of it you expect something severe, but there may be a whole picture we don't know about. You never know until you know the whole story

I very much hope that they are caught and the story is properly examined

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Re: How Low Can Thugs Get ?

Isn’t half the problem that the courts are too soft on these sort of scum? Slap on the wrist and a ‘don’t do it again sonny’ seems about it nowadays. What message does that send to anyone? It’s tantamount to saying it’s OK to do it, in the eyes of the scum.
The defending barrister will no doubt plead all the usual codswallop about no father figure, mother on drugs etc, whatever sob story he thinks will soften the judge.
Drive at 35 mph and it’s a whole different story.
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Re: How Low Can Thugs Get ?

There is clearly no deterrent that is proving effective.
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Re: How Low Can Thugs Get ?

As Cressida Dick said this week the Police have to put the fear back into being a criminal.
Actions should have consequences. If they are under 16 then the parents should be charged.
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As Cressida Dick said this week the Police have to put the fear back into being a criminal.
Actions should have consequences. If they are under 16 then the parents should be charged.
Wonder if that could be extended to ‘if they are living at home’ no matter what age (within reason obviously!)
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Fortunately 'sellotape' takes fingerprints quite nicely.

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I would leave it to the courts to determine what a suitable sentence was.
Leaving it to the courts is precisely why the person stood behind you at the Tesco's checkout could have 60 previous convictions including theft, robbery, mugging GBH etc. and still be walking our streets. It is also the reason why thugs have no respect or fear of our laws or any part of our legal system.

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Clearly there is something horrible here and on the face of it you expect something severe, but there may be a whole picture we don't know about
What possible picture, scenario or excuse could there possibly be for sticking razor blades on children's playground equipment ?

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Isn’t half the problem that the courts are too soft on these sort of scum? Slap on the wrist and a ‘don’t do it again sonny’ seems about it nowadays. What message does that send to anyone? It’s tantamount to saying it’s OK to do it, in the eyes of the scum.
The defending barrister will no doubt plead all the usual codswallop about no father figure, mother on drugs etc, whatever sob story he thinks will soften the judge.
Drive at 35 mph and it’s a whole different story.
The problem is that these people aren’t getting caught because there aren’t enough police because crime doesn’t affect those currently in power or those they actually represent. We had a period of being “tough on crime; tough on the causes of crime” and the police were properly funded, supported and had the numbers. Guess what? Crime went down.
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Re: How Low Can Thugs Get ?

One that worries me is that peoople will start taking the law into their own hands and by doing so, will more than likely be the ones who get punished. A win win for the toe-rags who will probable gain monetary damages. If crime doesn't pay, then why the 'eck is it becoming more and more prevalent and in your face?
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The problem is that these people aren’t getting caught because there aren’t enough police because crime doesn’t affect those currently in power or those they actually represent. We had a period of being “tough on crime; tough on the causes of crime” and the police were properly funded, supported and had the numbers. Guess what? Crime went down.
Install CCTV in all playgrounds. It works well in bus lanes in Cheltenham, catching me twice in one weekend with fines totalling £60.00. What a welcome for a stranger in town!

Regarding the culprits in this story, why not make them use the slide, if the police can be bothered to investigate a non-motoring offence.
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The problem is that these people aren’t getting caught because there aren’t enough police because crime doesn’t affect those currently in power or those they actually represent.
I agree 100%. The tendency of many of the rich and powerful is to live in gated communities or hire private security. The rest of us have to make do with inadequate policing.

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Re: How Low Can Thugs Get ?

It sounds more like a mental health issue or possibly some form of hate crime.

Whatever the explanation the perpetrator(s) shouldn't be free to walk the streets for a very long time.

I agree with Cressida Dick. The fear needs to be put back into policing, and also into visits to the Head teacher's office. Speaking as one who received a few strokes of the Head Master's cane (I wasn't always a good boy) I can tell you than it was a much more effective deterrent that a few after school detentions.
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Install CCTV in all playgrounds.
That will no doubt contravene some child protection laws! We must think of the children (sigh)
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Speaking as one who received a few strokes of the Head Master's cane (I wasn't always a good boy) I can tell you than it was a much more effective deterrent that a few after school detentions.
Given todays compensation mentality, you could probably make a successful claim against the Education Dept for many years of mental anguish and depression, suffered as a result of being caned.

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