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Panasonic 8-18mm

Looks potentially interesting, especially at around 250g lighter than the Oly 7-14 f2.8:

http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer...h-e08018e.html

It takes screw-in filters, too.
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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

If this is purple flare free on Olympus bodies, then I'm very interested.
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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

Yeah, but I'll wait for a few reviews from reliable sources first.
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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

It's more compact than the Oly too, but initial prices (WEX are offering it at 1049) seem a bit high to me. Hopefully they'll drop when it becomes available.

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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

First test up at ephotzine (https://www.ephotozine.com/article/p...--review-30889)

Their verdict is:
"The Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmarit 8-18mm f/2.8-4 Asph.*is a pleasure to use, but the greatest pleasure is arguably in the outstanding sharpness, giving a real punch to images. The pleasure extends to enjoying fine engineering as well, because there is the high quality of the construction and finish to enjoy for its own sake.

In summary, a lens that lives up to its Leica tag and should serve very well for many years of use."

I've got it added to the CameraPriceBuster website as well (http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/) so we can watch for the price to hopefully drop as supplies ramp up - as opposed to rise as the pound continues its descent to parity with the Euro and the dollar!

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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

Mirrorless Comparisons (http://mirrorlesscomparison.com/) have now tested the 8-18 against both the Olympus 7-14 and the Lumix 7-14.

Interestingly they see little benefit over the Lumix lens (which I already own) unless the extra zoom range or aperture is really essential to you. So it's looking like this would be an extravagant purchase for anyone who already owns a wide-angle zoom.

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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

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Mirrorless Comparisons (http://mirrorlesscomparison.com/) have now tested the 8-18 against both the Olympus 7-14 and the Lumix 7-14.

Interestingly they see little benefit over the Lumix lens (which I already own) unless the extra zoom range or aperture is really essential to you. So it's looking like this would be an extravagant purchase for anyone who already owns a wide-angle zoom.

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Nice enough review, but I'm amazed given Mathieu's u43 experience that he didn't ask the obvious question - "does the new lens produce purple blob flare on Olympus bodies like the Lumix 7-14"?

If it does then there is already a sound reason to buy it. Then there's other attributes such as weather sealing and ability to take filters that might make it less than an extravagant purchase.
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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

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Nice enough review, but I'm amazed given Mathieu's u43 experience that he didn't ask the obvious question - "does the new lens produce purple blob flare on Olympus bodies like the Lumix 7-14"?

If it does then there is already a sound reason to buy it. Then there's other attributes such as weather sealing and ability to take filters that might make it less than an extravagant purchase.
Paul, did you mean "if it doesn't?"
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Paul, did you mean "if it doesn't?"
Err, yes John - sorry, got confused by my own convoluted logic!
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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

I'm also interested in this. I do like my Olympus 7-14 F2.8 pro, but it's a pain to use filters on as I have to use my Lee 100mm system (and a special adapter), whereas all my other lenses can comfortably use my much smaller Seven5 system.

Also, my copy (don't know if it's all copies), seem to suffer from quite severe field curvature, meaning you have to be really careful where you focus in the image to retain front / back sharpness (even at 7mm and F8 !). Finally there's the bulbous front element which I always worry about scratching or putting a fingerprint on, as it's so exposed.

The size and weight advantages of the new Panny 8-18mm don't really concern me as I don't think the Olympus lens for what it offer's is really that big or heavy, but then neither does the loss of 1mm on the wide end or the constant F2.8 aperture.

The only thing that's currently stopping me from putting a pre-order in for the Panny lens is a) Price - at over 1k at launch it's already over 100 more than a brand new wider and faster Olympus lens, and b) (the biggie), as some have mentioned, I need to see if the purple blobbing issue that affected my original Panasonic 7-14 F4 lens is still there or not. It's the only reason I move the original Panny lens on and purchased the Olympus version in the first place (otherwise I'd still have it) !
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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

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The only thing that's currently stopping me from putting a pre-order in for the Panny lens is a) Price - at over 1k at launch it's already over 100 more than a brand new wider and faster Olympus lens, and b) (the biggie), as some have mentioned, I need to see if the purple blobbing issue that affected my original Panasonic 7-14 F4 lens is still there or not. It's the only reason I move the original Panny lens on and purchased the Olympus version in the first place (otherwise I'd still have it) !
I feel much the same. 1k for an 8-18mm variable aperture f4 lens really is OTT. The Canon FF 17-40 f4 L (also weather sealed) is less than half the price. I understand that there are R&D costs to recover but a 100% premium really is pushing the boat out. Even the stellar 42.5mm f1.2 Nocticron can be found for under 900.

I currently have the Panasonic 7-14 and it's a nice lens, apart from the purple flare/blob issue. I've fitted the rear filter mod which is very effective, but the gels are fragile and need occasional replacement - which given they are very hard to find - is a long term problem that will probably force me to switch at some point. Maybe by then the 8-18 will have dropped to more sensible levels - 750 sounds a more reasonable price in my view.
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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

Totally agree with everything you said Paul.
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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

Sorry, but could you explain/show the 'purple blob flare', please.
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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

Here's one that I think pretty well shows it (just under the arches in the middle)

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Re: Panasonic 8-18mm

It's related to an interaction between the optical design of the Panny 7-14 and most (?all) Olympus sensors - others I'm sure can provide the physical background. It results in purple blobs of flare around high intensity areas of light. You can see them in the VF if you know what to look for, and in many cases you can tweak the alignment of the camera to avoid or minimise them.

They are irritating though, and prompted me to switch to the irritatingly larger, heavier and more expensive 7-14 f2.8 Olympus Pro, which is just slightly better optically apart from the blobs (in my experience).

I'd really like a small, light ultra wide Pro lens for m4/3, and f4 would be fine for landscapes (although an optically-excellent f2.8 or 2 prime would also open up a lot of astrophotography to the system).
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