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Editing Challenge

Here we go with our first "Editing Challenge". The RAW file is located in the DropBox Link provided by timboo.

I'd like to keep this initial thread going for a while to see how popular it is, but once the post rate slows to a point where no entries are being made, I'll give 24hrs notice and we can then decide on a "winning" edit.

I'm still open to suggestions on how we pick the winner, but please keep that discussion to the original "idea" thread.

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I was going to aim for a pre Christmas theme however didnt have an image I felt was suitable. Therefore I opted for a photo shot in Dorset.

It will make for some interesting edits in terms of crop and the sky colours. I have done my own edit and look forward to seeing a different take.
Anyway here is the first link to the ball rolling.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bwosd0qdyx...B0042.ORF?dl=0


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Re: Editing Challenge

This is my version after processing the raw.

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Re: Editing Challenge

Elements haze removal, Nik dark contrast, sharpen wall top,i fancied a dark theme.

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My version, via LR6.?



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Re: Editing Challenge



A number of processes and programmes (lightroom, photoshop). Not a fan of gravestones and the walls and composition blocked the subject for me.
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Re: Editing Challenge

With SIX votes the clear favourite is :

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A number of processes and programmes (lightroom, photoshop). Not a fan of gravestones and the walls and composition blocked the subject for me.
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Well done Peter, 'twas a good render...............
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Re: Editing Challenge

Thank you to everyone who voted for my fairly safe and direct approach to the challenge. I hope those that chose to be creative and dramatic will be winners in subsequent challenges.

Let me give my own views on the entries and why I did what I did.

Firstly, I agree with OM User on his view of the starting image. A good challenge, lots of issues and a nice image in there but quite well hidden.
Tom - I think this helped to make me enter. I had looked at the image and found it to be in need of some work, Tom had sorted out several things but it was so far from natural landscape I thought I'd try for a simple and natural look. Maybe an opposite view.

Mik - The sky and darker tones really worked with this. But I felt the composition (especially that wall at the leading edge) stops your eye from getting into the image. Plus grave stones and dark tones just don't appeal to me and they pull my eye down.

Mark - This sorted out the composition a little and really brought clarity to the subject, But the colours were not as pleasant as they could have been with a feeling of a dull wet day between the showers?

Dave (Wornish) A very different view to mine. Would have been even nicer if it had been cropped harder and the bottom half replaced with more black trees and bushes. The gravestones are too strong. The top of the castle seems to be soft as well. But some good creativity and worth pursuing.

Michael's (Technician) A very nice conversion, with sparkle and definition where it is needed. But I will usually choose colour first on a landscape so I voted elsewhere.

Graham - Clever and witty. But why resist the opportunity to put a snowman in. Or replace all of the gravestones with snowmen.

OM 1 - One for the Goths.

Andy (Shenstone) - My first vote. DXO does a lovely conversion. But I still see two pictures and would want a crop.

OM 2 - My second vote. There are some areas of this which are really lovely. The spongeing in the sky, the trees to the middle right are very nice. Delicate and creative. I can even accept the gravestones (just remove the two big ones for me).

Gingram - A different composition which works. I can see it in a technical or factual context (book, paper etc). Sharp and direct.

Paul - Has the appearance of a print from a slide or a historic postcard, a definite and confident style and look.

Cliff - Bit too extreme for me. Brings out the dramatic but doesn't hold your eye.

OM 3 - Not my favourite of the 3 by OM User

Bikie John - Nice and simple, but I would crop it . of the two I prefer version one, this adds tone but takes away warmth.

Mark - Work still in progress for me. Like the crop, like the ideas but not the execution. Extra light needs to work with the natural light.

Dave (Wornish) - Like the crop but the colours are not working for me.

Iain - My third vote was for the coloured version. natural and a nice crop, removing the wall and the two dominant headstones. I'd go further still....
If I have said something too bluntly then I apologise. Please feel free to tell me off!


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I have re-run my edit and although it isn't exactly the same it is near enough to try and share what I did and why. I made it bigger here but apologise that it is so big!

Step one was to find the crop to establish what image I was looking for. I tried many things but it worked best when I lost the 4:3 format. I also tried to correct the verticals and gently increase the height. Some of that may be in the submission, but I went simple for this rerun.



Step two involved some work in lightroom. These settings are quite strong but the image was soft and washed out so I needed to push more than I would normally do. The cloning was done at an early stage to remove gravestones etc. Plus it needed sharpening to give a sort of focus. Not standard for me.




Step three involved taking the image into photoshop to sort out the colour and sparkle. I still haven't quite managed to achieve the original blue in the sky



Final steps were about dealing with noise using a plug-in and sharpening the tiff after noise reduction.




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I will do my best to provide a picture which gives scope for drama and perhaps also some technical challenges. I'll let Graham know what I have found so far from the archives.
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Thank you to everyone who voted for my fairly safe and direct approach to the challenge. I hope those that chose to be creative and dramatic will be winners in subsequent challenges.

Let me give my own views on the entries and why I did what I did.

Firstly, I agree with OM User on his view of the starting image. A good challenge, lots of issues and a nice image in there but quite well hidden.

[see original post for comments by Art Frames]

If I have said something too bluntly then I apologise. Please feel free to tell me off!
Thank you for adding your comments on all the entries Peter. I agree with all of them to some degree and with your assessment of the original image. I had not thought of cloning out the large gravestones and you had done it so so well I that hadn't noticed. Perhaps the others who voted would add their comments as well.

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I have re-run my edit and although it isn't exactly the same it is near enough to try and share what I did and why. I made it bigger here but apologise that it is so big!

Step one was to find the crop to establish what image I was looking for. I tried many things but it worked best when I lost the 4:3 format. I also tried to correct the verticals and gently increase the height. Some of that may be in the submission, but I went simple for this rerun.

Step two involved some work in lightroom. These settings are quite strong but the image was soft and washed out so I needed to push more than I would normally do. The cloning was done at an early stage to remove gravestones etc. Plus it needed sharpening to give a sort of focus. Not standard for me.

Step three involved taking the image into photoshop to sort out the colour and sparkle. I still haven't quite managed to achieve the original blue in the sky

Final steps were about dealing with noise using a plug-in and sharpening the tiff after noise reduction.
Good to know how you did it. I wonder how many people use a number of editing applications on a tricky image - does this mean that there is not one app that rules them all?
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does this mean that there is not one app that rules them all?
The one that did it all was aperture. But Apple stopped updating it.

Lightroom and photoshop was OK but I don't want to pay a monthly fee and I am not sure that they will not increase the cloud dependence. So I am pulling back in stages.

I cannot get used to DXO. Luminar seems to be full of gimmicks.

So I would say not yet for me. But maybe next year....
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The one that did it all was aperture. But Apple stopped updating it.

Lightroom and photoshop was OK but I don't want to pay a monthly fee and I am not sure that they will not increase the cloud dependence. So I am pulling back in stages.

I cannot get used to DXO. Luminar seems to be full of gimmicks.

So I would say not yet for me. But maybe next year....
Agree Luminar is becoming too full of gimmicks. I like Affinity Photo it seems to me to be the best Photoshop competitor and very reasonably priced. I decided to buy it for myself this Christmas and will then stop my Adobe CC membership when it comes up for its annual renewal.
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Mainly Photoshop + Tonality CK

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Re: Editing Challenge

Elements 12 and lots of layers each with their own adjustment for a gothic feel. Slight crop off the bottom.


From _TGB0042 by Timboo.

Edit: Red effect done by adding multiple red layers for each element (layer) blended in multiply mode with varying levels of opacity depending on which element I was doing. The mask for the castle/walls red layer was trimmed around the top and right sides to let more of the original whiter stone through to look like it was highlighted. Other than that each of the different layers had hue/saturation and brightness/contrast adjustment layers tweaked to taste.
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