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An unhelpful comment?

My daughter has recently started an A Level Photography course in 6th Form and predictably she is the only pupil who uses an Olympus camera. Most use a Canon of one sort or another and the teacher told the class that Canon are the best brand, followed by Nikon. Really?
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Re: An unhelpful comment?

No a bit backwards I think. Nikon is the best....Canon never sent a camera to space. The best brand is the one that works for you! I could have been going down the Nikon route quite easily, but the E510 just felt better to hold, and the 2x crop factor sealed the deal. It's been Olympus all the way, no regrets.
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Re: An unhelpful comment?

Obviously never heard of Hasselblad? :-)
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Re: An unhelpful comment?

Comments such as that, especially from a member of the teaching staff are worse than pathetic. Words, just words. A camera is a camera, is a camera... just a tool to be used. It's the individual behind the tool that determines what the end result will be. Sounds like the teacher could be the proverbial tool behind the tool?

Let her finished items do the talking.

Then when she wipes the board at the end of term / course, she can always comment... "What a great pity I didn't have a C***n or a N***n, I could have done sooooo much better."

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Re: An unhelpful comment?

What a tool, he is supposed to be teaching photography not his camera brand preference!

Theres a saying those that can do those that can't teach.

I know a few that do and teach.

He sounds like he is in the first group, I'd love to se his fantastic Canon master pieces John.
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Re: An unhelpful comment?

So the teacher has an open mind and should be able to help broaden the minds of their students?! What nonsense, sounds like something you'd hear in a camera shop before they were rescued by a dragon.

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Re: An unhelpful comment?

The Olympus E-3 went into space:
http://www.photographyblog.com/news/...es_into_space/

Working in an FE college, I've also heard this tripe and other such nonsense.

The Mechanics argue over the merits of Snap on tools over Gedore or Elora.

The chippies debate DeWalt vs JCB vs Stanley

Everyone knows the best omelets are cooked in le creuset pans...
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Re: An unhelpful comment?

Makes you wonder what she's going to learn from someone that makes such a stupid remark!

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Re: An unhelpful comment?

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The Olympus E-3 went into space:
http://www.photographyblog.com/news/...es_into_space/

Working in an FE college, I've also heard this tripe and other such nonsense.

The Mechanics argue over the merits of Snap on tools over Gedore or Elora.

The chippies debate DeWalt vs JCB vs Stanley

Everyone knows the best omelets are cooked in le creuset pans...
Learn something new everyday! I didn't know that. Really wouldn't have known about Nikon except fro a friend I served in the Air Force with, his dad worked at NASA developing the films from space.
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Re: An unhelpful comment?

This seems to happen quite a bit I think. I was in a secondhand shop, and in walked a family looking to move their daughter up from a bridge camera because she had started photography classes in school. They picked up a NICE secondhand Nikon....D100 I think. The class was photographing BIF from hides at the time. What did she really want or had been told was the set up? Canon 7D MkII with a 300 F2.8! I have no doubt this is the way to go....for some... for BIF. But dad wasn't going to fork out that kind of dosh for his starter child.

Not to stir the pot, but I have had very little trouble doing BIF with the M1, maybe I'm not looking for the same results as others on here, I don't know. My main trouble is getting and keeping the bird in the box 9 focus point area. I have also found it focuses better on distant objects using C-AF and back button focus rather than S-AF.

Sorry for going a bit off topic.
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Re: An unhelpful comment?

I work in a school where photography students regularly use their iphones to complete their homework tasks. No problem as far as the teaching staff are concerned, its just another tool, but getting the images onto the system so they can work on them is another story and I don't want to open that can of worms!


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Re: An unhelpful comment?

I'm not too worried; it was probably just an off the cuff remark but potentially it could have undermined my daughter's confidence in her camera. Luckily she does not seem at all gear orientated so no harm done. On the plus side the school has excellent facilities and they set quite a demanding project to be completed during the school holidays, before the course had even started! On the downside, I've just had to shell out 150.00 towards the cost of digital printing and darkroom consumables that she is likely to use on the course. In the end, I'm just grateful that she has the opportunity to do this.
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Re: An unhelpful comment?

I remember someone posting somewhere that a friend of theirs who worked at Zeiss said 'Canon lenses - meh! Nikon lenses - meh! Olympus lenses - hmm!

It's a bit cryptic, but I guess it means that the Zeiss person thought that Canon and Nikon lenses didn't compare with Zeiss ones, but that Olympus ones probably did.

Regardless, Canon have produced some notoriously dreadful consumer 'coke bottle bottom' lenses!

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Re: An unhelpful comment?

Unfortunately reminds me of a course I did once

The 1st week the teacher (who owned a local gallery) said you really had to have a proper camera and to him that meant N***on

Then he realises he's left his keys to the office and needs to borrow a camera so lent him the E30 +14-54 moving "down" to my spare E520+50mm prime and lending another student who brought a pocket P&S my E500 +14-42

He's impressed by the end of the session with his results and mine

Next week he starts with "I've got my proper camera this week" and then wanders off leaving most people to struggle and I end up "teaching" 1/2 the students how to change the settings on their cameras

Third week after he says he does not need to see any more of my work until the end of the course as I seem to understand what I'm doing.

I walked out mid session, what was I going to learn??

The problem IMO is not kit fetishists, it's people who don't know how to inspire, lead and teach and I refuse to waste my time on any of that sort of person and they should be weeded out from any form of education

I hope your daughter finds some inspiration from this person somewhere

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Re: An unhelpful comment?

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My daughter has recently started an A Level Photography course in 6th Form and predictably she is the only pupil who uses an Olympus camera. Most use a Canon of one sort or another and the teacher told the class that Canon are the best brand, followed by Nikon. Really?
Shocking, surely they should be teaching that the best cameras are those with a red dot on them.
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