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Old 30th September 2017
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Reading about BoJo's continued undermining of TM publicly, I was wondering why she tolerates his overtly disloyal antics. It has been said that she isn't strong enough to fire him, but I was thinking perhaps she could have been reading Machiavelli, and trying to put his advice into practice. You know the bit of advice: "Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer".

Watching what has been going on, and all the shenanigans about Brexit, does Machiavelli's advice generally still hold good in this day and age? The world is a very different place to the world of 1500; one could say that people don't fundamentally change, but how true is it, especially in the tortured world of modern politics?

I'm in total agreement with Socrates, when he said, some 2200 years ago, "Politicians aren't born, they are excreted." That definitely hasn't changed!

In the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, around 900 AD, Anglo Saxon youths were complaining about the Danish youths living nearby, because they were always washing their hair and bathing, and so had much more success with the local girls. And that sort of thing definitely hasn't changed either!

Women are supposed to be more devious and more deadly than men. Looking at the TM/BoJo debacle, one could be forgiven for thinking that is something that has changed. And remembering that Niccolo Machiavelli was a man writing for men, is his advice still appropriate?

What do you reckon, folks?
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Re: Machiavelli...?

Originally Posted by KeithL View Post
Women are supposed to be more devious and more deadly than men.
I can believe that. Women also have more 'weapons' in their armoury, and can be very persuasive.

However, from bitter personal experience of office politics I would say men are more dangerous, and more vindictive.

That was twenty-five years ago. I doubt that much has changed; although the gentleman concerned was known to have 'compromised' another man further up the food chain, which possibly wouldn't have the same gravitas or leverage today.

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