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Re: Another big loss to the UK

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Another bete noire of mine is the execrable 'Spiegel im Spiegel' by Arvo Part (Fart!)

Screeeeee ... plinkle plonckle .... screeeeee ... plinkle plonckle. Repeated ad nauseum!

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Come on Jim. Get with it!

I've added this, just for you Jim.

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I've listened to this online station in the past and it was excellent:

https://www.classicalmusicamerica.com/

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I hope you like music of Shostakovich because that is playing now (I do).

Or you could listen online (as a number do overseas) to this. http://radio.abc.net.au/stations/classic/live?play=true

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I thought you'd be listening to Dame Nellie Melba on a wind up 78!

;^)

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You guys must be so 'backward' thinking we're that 'backward'.

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Re: Another big loss to the UK

When I first saw the name Arvo Part I thought it was an Australian talking about the period following lunch

Useful for quizzes though - how many other famous Estonians can you name?

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Come on Jim. Get with it!

I've added this, just for you Jim.

Arvo Part Spiegel Im Spiegel - YouTube
I like the image, Ross!

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I hope you like music of Shostakovich because that is playing now (I do).
Yes, I do - well most of it.

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Where I worked as a science technician, we bought some rather fine physics equipment from a company in Melbourne (we can't make things like that anymore!). I said to an Australian physics teacher that: "It's marvellous what can be made from a few pieces of wood and oil drum, using primitive tools!" He liked that!

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I like the image, Ross!

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There's more if you play the video too.

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Where I worked as a science technician, we bought some rather fine physics equipment from a company in Melbourne (we can't make things like that anymore!). I said to an Australian physics teacher that: "It's marvellous what can be made from a few pieces of wood and oil drum, using primitive tools!" He liked that!

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Quality &/or ingenuity then?

Hope my wife's HSC Physics students do OK in the exams.
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Re: Another big loss to the UK

Music is all in the ears of the beholder. What one person likes, another finds it a discordant noise as this OPUS item proves. http://www.cmuse.org/orchestral-musi...es-to-surface/
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Re: Another big loss to the UK

There is a lot of good music on Classic FM; but they spoil it by keep playing a small repertoire of the same pieces - and that damned vote for the "best classical pieces". And "carpe diem" - aaaarrrgghh! They are trying to be all things to all people, and it doesn't work well.

But you also have to remember, it's Classic FM, NOT Classical FM. I came across some interesting Argentinian and Cuban music (not the usual Spanish style): anyone tried Frank Emilio Flynn? Or Carlos Gardel? (Who was French, despite his name) Or the Argentinian singer Mercedes Sosa? That started when I heard a Carlos Gardel piece on Classic FM. Like Gardel, they played just one waltz by Karl-Peter Ziehrer, Strauss's great rival. He wrote just as many dance pieces as Strauss, and many are good. So why not play more of them?

There is a lot of more obscure music out there, and much of it has merit; and a lot of composers who are little known. Come across Johann Gottfried Piefke? He spent his professional life as Kapellmeister to first the Prussian, then the Imperial German Army, which mean that, like Sousa, he wrote many, many marches. Not that I recommend this one, but he wrote Hitler's favorite march, the Koeniggraetzer March. (The one you always hear being played by marching German soldiers in WW2 films!)

Like so many things these days, Classic FM is dumbed down. A shame, because it used to be much better than it is now.
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Hitler's favorite march, the Koeniggraetzer March. (The one you always hear being played by marching German soldiers in WW2 films!)
I asked my partner (born in East Prussia in the early part of the War) if she knew the march, but she didn't. I then found it on Youtube and she instantly recognised it. She then asked if I could find 'Ich hatt' einen Kameraden' and 'Horst Wessel Lied', both of which her father (who served in the Werhmacht), she remembers singing. They both reduced her to tears.

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I asked my partner (born in East Prussia in the early part of the War) if she knew the march, but she didn't. I then found it on Youtube and she instantly recognised it. She then asked if I could find 'Ich hatt' einen Kameraden' and 'Horst Wessel Lied', both of which her father (who served in the Werhmacht), she remembers singing. They both reduced her to tears.

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H'mm, the Horst Wessel Lied isn't a good idea these days!

You may like the Dueppeler Schantzenmarsch by Piefke. But it's unwise to play to a Danish person - it was written to accompany the Prussian troops over the top in the 1864 assault on the Dybb°l redoubts, when Denmark was utterly defeated in the first of Bismarck's wars. But it's a very attractive piece of music.

The Koeniggraetzer March was written by Piefke in 1866 as a triumphal march after Prussia defeated Austria at the battle of Koeniggratz. The only other one you hear these days of Piefke's marches is Preusens Gloria.
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There is a lot of good music on Classic FM; but they spoil it by keep playing a small repertoire of the same pieces - and that damned vote for the "best classical pieces". And "carpe diem" - aaaarrrgghh! They are trying to be all things to all people, and it doesn't work well.
To be fair, Classic FM improves a lot in the evenings, when I guess they are not competing so much for the mass market. There are also very few advertisements at this time.

I particularly enjoy David Mellor's programmes and his documentary style, where they do explore a lot of music that is never heard on CFM during the day.

Out of sheer devilment I am hoping that perhaps an organ builder such as Harrison & Harrison (based here in Durham) might have the foresight to sponsor one of CFM's daytime programmes. That way CFM listeners would come to realise that there is a vast repertoire written for the King of Instruments, and not just that wretched French toccata that we hear on the hour every hour.

The irony is that the (in)famous Toccata which concludes Charles-Marie Widor's 5th symphony is preceded by a sublime adagio, which I don't think I have ever heard broadcast on any wireless programme. The popularity of this particular toccata is a great shame as many of Widor's other works are of better quality. It would also be good to hear more of the other great French composers such as Louis Vierne and CÚsar Franck.

Then there is the subject of wind pressures and French reeds ........

Now, where did I leave my anorak?
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I used to listen to CFM quite a bit on a reasonable hi-fi system but I gave up because I got annoyed by the different volume levels and tone mix they used for the adverts.
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To be fair, Classic FM improves a lot in the evenings, when I guess they are not competing so much for the mass market. There are also very few advertisements at this time.

I particularly enjoy David Mellor's programmes and his documentary style, where they do explore a lot of music that is never heard on CFM during the day.

Out of sheer devilment I am hoping that perhaps an organ builder such as Harrison & Harrison (based here in Durham) might have the foresight to sponsor one of CFM's daytime programmes. That way CFM listeners would come to realise that there is a vast repertoire written for the King of Instruments, and not just that wretched French toccata that we hear on the hour every hour.

The irony is that the (in)famous Toccata which concludes Charles-Marie Widor's 5th symphony is preceded by a sublime adagio, which I don't think I have ever heard broadcast on any wireless programme. The popularity of this particular toccata is a great shame as many of Widor's other works are of better quality. It would also be good to hear more of the other great French composers such as Louis Vierne and CÚsar Franck.

Then there is the subject of wind pressures and French reeds ........

Now, where did I leave my anorak?
Wireless programme? The Light Programme or the Home Service? Educating Archie? The Glums? ("Ro-o-o-on!" "Yes Eff?" "Are you there, Ron?" "Yes Eff." etc...) ITMA? ( "Can y'hear me, Mother?") I usually ask check out persons if their card machine is wireless.......

Harrison and Harrison still exist? I played one of their organs in Warkworth church many years ago; also a Walker in a church in Kielder Forest, that was used temporarily in York Minster. Down here we tend to have Norman and Beard organs - there is a superb one in Aylsham church, which I played about 35 years ago. 32 foot basses (3/4 bar delay!) Makes you feel all-powerful playing a thing like that - my Conn Theater pales into insignificance in comparison! You can't easily get permission these days.

I'll have to tell you a funny organ story later.....
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I used to listen to CFM quite a bit on a reasonable hi-fi system but I gave up because I got annoyed by the different volume levels and tone mix they used for the adverts.
Not to mention the rubbish quality on DAB...
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Wash your mouth out after using the word DAB.
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