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Re: Street Photography are there any exceptions

Photos of an accident may help with the ensuing enquiry. It is possible! But if you're the only one around to witness someone having their leg ripped off, it's common sense to render assistance to the best of your ability, even if it means using your precious EM1 Mk2 to chock a car from rolling further and causing even more damage.

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Re: Street Photography are there any exceptions

Pany 100-400mm zoom would stop the car rolling as well...Ö.
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Re: Street Photography are there any exceptions

Hmmm, seems that according to some points of view, we might have to ask the Plod Squad and certain military personnel to ditch the camera. Invasion of privacy for some and a record of events for others.

A two edged sword to possibly prevent claims - from decades ago - that have cost the taxpayers dosh for many 'spurious' claims on one hand. On the other, to confirm wrongdoing - a military incident - which proved to be a self-inflicted shot in the foot for the military. It works both ways. Morals and common sense should apply. Unfortunately, these days, both would appear to be a very rare commodity.
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Re: Street Photography are there any exceptions

The camera caught troops acting unprofessionally in Iraq. Remember the GI taking a pop through a wall opening (the hole might have had a window when Sadam was in power).

I wonder what George and Tony are up to these days?
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The camera caught troops acting unprofessionally in Iraq. Remember the GI taking a pop through a wall opening (the hole might have had a window when Sadam was in power).

I wonder what George and Tony are up to these days?
Together ? I shudder to think

Tony has been providing his valuable opinions on Brexit recently.

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Re: Street Photography are there any exceptions

Just imagine Tony being a Brexiteer, he'd have us invading Europe. (Not true, just made it up.)
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Photos of an accident may help with the ensuing enquiry. It is possible! But if you're the only one around to witness someone having their leg ripped off, it's common sense to render assistance to the best of your ability, even if it means using your precious EM1 Mk2 to chock a car from rolling further and causing even more damage.

(Other camera systems may be used, of course.)

I might be inclined to use the ripped off leg first then if that fails try the camera, but take the card out


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I might be inclined to use the ripped off leg first then if that fails try the camera, but take the card out


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Or film, if you're using a 'proper' camera, ah!
There's not a cat in hell's chance I'd use my OM1n as a wheel chock. The car would just have to roll.

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There's not a cat in hell's chance I'd use my OM1n as a wheel chock. The car would just have to roll.

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Re: Street Photography are there any exceptions

I wouldn't mind using my Ca Ca Ca Ca... - damn! It won't accept the name. As it's insured for accidental damages.

Then use the dosh to buy a decent one?

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I wouldn't mind using my Ca Ca Ca Ca... - damn! It won't accept the name. As it's insured for accidental damages.

Then use the dosh to buy a decent one?

Any forthcoming advice would be welcome.
Me? I'd go for a nice FM2, or an F3 possibly - accepting it's got way too much electronics for its own good - plus a selection of AI or AIS glass things.
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Re: Street Photography are there any exceptions

The OP is posing just one example of a wider ethical question, which is whether it's okay to create an image of someone's (apparent) misfortune. Sometimes these can be quite evocative pictures, and not necessarily voyeuristic. Sometimes they are genuinely authentic depictions of life, and intended sensitively and appreciatively. Sometimes you can discern the good motives of the photographer and sometimes you can't. (even depictions of urban decay, not involving people, can be captured with a whole range of different motivations, e.g. purely aesthetic, empathic, admiring, or voyeuristic. I once found a portfolio of shots of urban decay in Rome and felt they were done with great sensitivity. Once when wandering a bit off piste in a Brussels suburb I found an outdoor 5-a-side football match in which both teams were using crutches; one team were the national amputee team and were very accomplished sportsmen; the other were able bodied volunteers using crutches and only one leg. I asked permission and they were very happy to be photographed (for non-commercial use), but I also felt it appropriate to use considerable sensitivity in the way I shared then to my Facebook friends, trying to ensure they were viewed in an admiring rather than voyeuristic way. similarly taking street photos of people who appear to be in difficult circumstances - e.g. beggars - can be done sensitively or insensitively. I don't think it's easy to generalise.
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Re: Street Photography are there any exceptions

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So some of the most historic pictures ever taken should be purged from the papers and web sites eg
The film of the Concorde crash at C de G airport
Pictures of people jumping off the buildings on 9/11
The Grenfell Tower pictures.
The Vietkong officer being shot in the head

etc
etc

some of theese pictures were accidentally taken (as opposed to be a set up picture)
Hasnít it been suggested that the photo of the children fleeing napalm was a major turning point in US attitudes to the Vietnam war? Hopefully it was and thousands of lives were eventually saved. Itís almost impossible to set one set of rules to cover all eventualities.

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Hmmm, Morals and common sense should apply. Unfortunately, these days, both would appear to be a very rare commodity.
It seems not much of the latter is being applied in this thread

It has gone from the OP original question regarding an accident or disaster you happen to come across to ... towing a stuck camper van off soft ground to atrocities in the Vietnam War. None are really relevant to the original post.

Still, I guess it eases the boredom at this time of year and provides a worthwhile link to Shenstone's very interesting website.

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