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Looking for improvement This is the e-group critique board. If you post a picture here it will be assumed that you are looking for comprehensive technical feedback - both good and bad, but always respectful. Only post pictures here if you can deal with potentially negative constructive criticism. Anyone is qualified to comment and post feedback, and everyone is encouraged to do so. NB: "Looking for Improvement" is the place to post any pictures you would like advice on improving, no matter how bad you might think they are.

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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

Told you it was too bright.............. For me photography is not necessarily about portraying reality but achieving a strong image. If that means a fair bit of editng then so be it. I still stand by my comments re mono but I wouldn't repost an image despite what others say unless I was asked to. It is still a very nice image.
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

The original was very interesting, yes but for me it lacked charisma and John added it......I hate to criticize others and I don't usually but I just had to have my say!
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

I really like the simpicility of the shot. For me I would have burned in the clouds in the top left hand corner a little more to darken the sky up and make it a bit more foreboding.
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please do not Critique.

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Err, its not now a reflection of what I saw.
You are implying that here we have telepathic access to your memories and should be critiquing it skewed by knowing what you saw at the time.
Wrong place, put it in foto fair, that's where my snaps go.

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... I appreciate the effort you've gone to but please, please don't alter and re-post my image....
OK, definitely wrong place and wrong attitude.
You know (we all know) how much faff it is to download, reprocess and upload an image and then to get slapped in the face for genuinely helpful work is ridiculous ... in the "looking for perfection" forum.

(On-topic : Am I wrong or did there used to be a clear note shown on the user name bar about allowing/preventing edits of user's photos?)
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

Its a lovely image and I would agree with the great comments already provided above. A little more contrast certainly adds to the total impact of the scene but I think you were trying to make the groyne the main subject

To have achieved this I think either a longer exposure or a lower angle of view would perhaps have been better?

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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

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The artist's (my) vision is in the original image. I appreciate the effort you've gone to but please, please don't alter and re-post my image.

Thanks for your comments though, they are much appreciated.
It's always a difficult aspect in how to respond to request for a critique, and it can be very useful to have people show alternative techniques or to help explain their ideas for improvements visually. The original idea, the artistry and the image is of course always with the originator of that image, but by way of explaining a critique, a visual example is an excellent way of showing the impact of those suggestions.
And I'm quite guilty on this charge too, but would defend the use on this Forum where we are asking for advice and comments. What I try to do is make sure that all references to the originator are kept in the title or the gallery upload, and at the end of the day there should never be any doubt that the originator is the true arbitor of their own work.
Hopefully the re-edit does show quickly and clearly what critique is being made, to then be accepted or rejected by not only the originator but also the other viewers of 'Looking for Perfection' - that way, we can all learn about some of the alternatives for our own work. So I was pleased to read your last paragraph, as I felt the re-edit was made in good faith for the purpose clearly requested in the title of your thread and the ideals of this section of the Forum.

Anyhow, to my critique:
My initial reaction was that I found something unsettling about the horizon and this almost totally distracted my attention trying to work out what is was - is there a bit of distant land on the centre left of the horizon? There is a bit of thick 'dark' line and I think it is this that makes the horizon look as though it has a bit of curvature. If so, I would look to lighten the image in this boundary area to reduce the impact or to alter the curvature to counteract the effect.
I did quite like the altering of the re-edit to the sea but not of the sky area which I would want to retain fairly light and less contrasty.
I would also explore the alternative between the re-edit of the sea or the opposite of lightening the light areas of the sea even more so that the focus then is very much on the 'dragon's teeth' and the shadowy bits of the waves.
All in all though a lovely image with lots of potential.
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

I'm not sure what you want, as it is pretty obvious from your replies to every suggestion that you are perfectly happy with the image how it is.

And that's fine by me, but snapshots and images I am perfectly happy with I put into Foto Fair not "Looking for Perfection" at the moment we do not have a section called perfect images, perhaps we should.

But I digress, do I have a view on the image, yes I do and just a minor modification, but I am not going to say what it is, as it will probably not fit in with the artist's vision which is also fine by me. So I will just say that it is a very pleasant image.
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

No crit but a question, where is it?
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

I actually prefer the original image honestly... the reposted edit does more than add contrast, but changes the entire mood and story behind the image for me. With the OP's title "Dragon Bones", I pictured a look into history, (a dragon's final resting place, and it's passing and remains over a period of time if we want to get really imaginative here), and the slow shutter speed added to the effect of passing time, and it's effect on the dragon's bones. The misty morning look added to it. The repost looses the slow shutter speed's effect imo and it looks like a single moment captured, and the dragon's death site on a grim day. My critique will be considered ludicrous, lol... S/N: I'm not a fan of square images, but it works here I guess.
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

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Eh?? Couldn't find it Chevvy. Just tell me where is was please
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

No I couldn't find it either so I went to the linked flickr page and it is tagged with Whitstable, so I assume that is where it is.
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No I couldn't find it either so I went to the linked flickr page and it is tagged with Whitstable, so I assume that is where it is.
Thanks Shirley. I cannot find the flickr link either
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There is a link on his profile page.
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