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Old 5th April 2012
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

I don't feel qualified to critique it, but I do like it.
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

I do like this, in particular the stones in the foreground. I am a big fan of slow shutter speeds in coastal scenes like this and the interest due to the 'bones' is great and gives a good lead in.
However, I feel that it is a little on the bright side. I did try converting it into mono using Silver Efex Pro and the High Structure Filter. A bit off the sky with the remainder burnt in quite a bit would increase the atmosphere and moodiness. I think it would make a much more powerful image in mono rather than colour personally. Try it.
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I don't feel qualified to critique it, but I do like it.
Oh go on. You're entitled to an opinion. Don't worry, my ego isn't tied up in whether anyone thinks its good or not.
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I do like this, in particular the stones in the foreground. I am a big fan of slow shutter speeds in coastal scenes like this and the interest due to the 'bones' is great and gives a good lead in.
However, I feel that it is a little on the bright side. I did try converting it into mono using Silver Efex Pro and the High Structure Filter. A bit off the sky with the remainder burnt in quite a bit would increase the atmosphere and moodiness. I think it would make a much more powerful image in mono rather than colour personally. Try it.
Hi, thanks for the input. I don't agree about the mono but then everyone has different tastes and perceptions. That's what its all about. Love your work.
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

It's a great composition of a really interesting subject but it's a little too bright and lacking in contrast for my taste. I've had a play with it in Elements - what do you think?

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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

A very nice image.

I like the use of the square frame and the strong lines leading into the frame. It would be nice after making the journey into the image there was a slightly more dramatic sky but you got natures wish. The horizon Looks to be in the ideal place. Maybe you could have made more of the pebbles in the foreground using a wider angle lens or lowering the cameras position to stretch the foreground.

Thanks for showing
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

I am very qualified at giving a poor critique, so I wont make an exception in this case.

The cloud formation has a fantastic lenticular feel, but I dont think they carry enough weight in the overall composition, particularly as the parallel's feed you towards the formation.

The colour of the ocean I feel lets it down, and I would be inclined to want to change it, and I would also likely expect to see a little more mood in say some mist rolling in from the sea.. ( i know a song about that)


As a composition, I like the style, I also wonder which lens you shot with, as the horizon has a slight curviture, and I am wondering if perhaps a fisheye effect may give it an alternate angle/mood.

Is this particular scene/coastline called the "dragon bones" by the locals or is this a title you have provided?

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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

A nice edit John.

Upped the stakes in the sky and it works well.
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

A great capture and i like Zuikos edit.
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

Stunning treatment of a spooky subject but I think Zuiko's rendering has the edge.

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It's a great composition of a really interesting subject but it's a little too bright and lacking in contrast for my taste. I've had a play with it in Elements - what do you think?
Err, its not now a reflection of what I saw. The day was bright and misty, which diffused the light and blurred some detail. The horizon line was almost obscured by a distant mist. The sky wasn't dark and brooding as you've portrayed.

I also messed with the levels but only to get it to reflect what I saw that day and that is what you see. I'd used up all my artistic licence with the slowly exposed waves.

The artist's (my) vision is in the original image. I appreciate the effort you've gone to but please, please don't alter and re-post my image.

Thanks for your comments though, they are much appreciated.
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I am very qualified at giving a poor critique, so I wont make an exception in this case.

The cloud formation has a fantastic lenticular feel, but I dont think they carry enough weight in the overall composition, particularly as the parallel's feed you towards the formation.

The colour of the ocean I feel lets it down, and I would be inclined to want to change it, and I would also likely expect to see a little more mood in say some mist rolling in from the sea.. ( i know a song about that)


As a composition, I like the style, I also wonder which lens you shot with, as the horizon has a slight curviture, and I am wondering if perhaps a fisheye effect may give it an alternate angle/mood.

Is this particular scene/coastline called the "dragon bones" by the locals or is this a title you have provided?

See...........I told you I was hopeless


My best regards.............Alan
Wow, talk about contradicting reviews! Some want the ocean with more colour, some want it with no colour. There's no wrong or right of course - unless you're in the "photography club" scene.

The curvature you speak of is probably an illusion caused by the mist being further forward in on the left and right of the frame. The lens is a 11-22mm Zuiko which does provide a bit of distortion in for the bargain.

Dragon bones is the title of the image. The actual feature is known as "the groynes" by the locals.

No, not hopeless at all. A great review duly noted.
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Err, its not now a reflection of what I saw. The day was bright and misty, which diffused the light and blurred some detail. The horizon line was almost obscured by a distant mist. The sky wasn't dark and brooding as you've portrayed.

I also messed with the levels but only to get it to reflect what I saw that day and that is what you see. I'd used up all my artistic licence with the slowly exposed waves.

The artist's (my) vision is in the original image. I appreciate the effort you've gone to but please, please don't alter and re-post my image.

Thanks for your comments though, they are much appreciated.
OK. It's usually an accepted part of the critique process to post suggested edits in "Looking for Perfection" but I won't bother with my time in future if you prefer it that way.
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Re: Dragon Bones - Please Critique.

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It's a great composition of a really interesting subject but it's a little too bright and lacking in contrast for my taste. I've had a play with it in Elements - what do you think?

I like Johns' treatment - it has bought out the density of the sky and detail of the Dragons Teeth, which I like very much

I LURVED this when I first viewed it on Flickr, but on a revisit or two - I thought too much bright uninteresting sky and not quite enough detail in the posts - BUT the most awesome detail in the foreground stones

So NOW its a MEGA WoW Shot for me! Well worthy of wallspace - I could really relax and daydream looking at these Dragons Teeth taking me off ... somewhere on the horizon !
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