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Upgrade to weather sealed

I've been thinking about this for a while, but this week in Skye has convinced me I need a weather sealed body instead of my 10mk2, especially as 95% of what I do is landscape.

I will go second hand to maximise what I can get for the money and will have a limited budget, say 400 - 500 for a body.

The obvious choice, it seems, is a 5mk2, and although that gets me water resistant, it doesn't give me much else does it? I'm not sure I want to splash the cash without getting a little something extra too...
A 1mk2 would be ideal, as it would also give the sensor improvement and some nice functionality. But that's strong money wise even 2nd hand at the moment.
Not sure about 1mk1, but that's the same reasons against as the 5mk2 I guess.

There's also the unlikely option of selling up (body+grip + 12-40 + 75-300 + pana 35-100) and jumping ship with whatever that raises. But not sure what that would get me or what I'd fancy, Fuji perhaps, but I'd want it to be mirrorless and weather sealed.

I realise that's just a load of rambling without any actual questions! but feel free to throw in any thoughts that might help me along!
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Re: Upgrade to weather sealed

My view - the original E-M1 (or "Mark I" as it was never called until there was a Mark II) is incredibly cheap on the used market and superb value. It was the top of the range Pro body until a couple of years ago and hasn't got worse. Then you can keep all your current lenses, and if you have money to spare invest in a 60mmm macro or a UWA prime such as Samyang 7.5mm fisheye. The only significant feature on the E-M5 ii which is not on the old E-M1 is Hi Res. If that's important to you then there may be an argument for E-M5 ii. As you say, E-M1 ii is out of your budget, even a used bargain.
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Re: Upgrade to weather sealed

Here's my take:

- There's virtually nothing between the E-M1 and E-M5ii in terms of IQ in normal circumstances, but for long exposures (30s or greater), the E-M1 is WORSE - you get terrible chroma noise. It can be avoided by using long-exposure noise reduction, but that doubles the time to take the shot since it's based on dark-frame subtraction.

- The two cameras may both be 16Mp, but they are not the same sensor. The E-M1 has a Panasonic sensor and the E-M5ii has a Sony one. IMHO the Sony is the slightly better sensor in most circumstances, but it pulls ahead strongly on long exposures as I noted above. If you like doing long exposure landscapes with ND filters, then the E-M5ii is the better choice.

- The only area where the E-M1 wins over the E-M5ii is AF. It has PDAF rather than CDAF on the E-M5ii. This makes it perform better in CAF mode. In SAF mode there's little to choose. For landscapes the AF on both is more than adequate.

- The E-M5ii has a flippy screen, the E-M1 a tilt-only. Choose your poison. I prefer tilt only, but none of the current Oly cameras have it so I live with the flippy screen.

- I personally prefer the smaller size of the E-M5ii and I also like the double-purpose grip - small landscape grip and a bigger portrait grip.

- I personally wouldn't recommend Fuji for landscapes - the raw file processing of XTrans is messy and doesn't work well with fine detail foliage.

For a different idea...

- The Panasonic G9 is available on some great deals at the moment (300 cashback). Bristol Street Cameras are offering it at 745 after the cash back, including a spare battery and a screen protector. It's all the E-M1ii is in most ways and in addition boasts a bigger EVF. If you can stretch your budget, it's worth a look.

Personally, If you want to keep costs down, I'd go for a used E-M5ii. I love that camera.
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Re: Upgrade to weather sealed

Thanks both of you, valuable opinions to take on board. I do quite a bit of long exposure stuff. I'd also like to keep live composite, which favours the em5mkii. There's a little used example on TP at the moment that's tempting.
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Re: Upgrade to weather sealed

Apologies for highjacking your thread, but I've been considering a 12-40mm f2.8 lens for some time, and been thinking the best way to get a non-grey import lens at a reasonable price might be to get an OMD EM5 Mk 2/12-40 kit at a good price when the opportunity arose.

That should provide me with the lens I want at decent (lowest in 2 years) price, plus a brand new EM5 MK 2 at secondhand price to replace my old EM5 Mk 1 as my second camera (other body is EM1 Mk 2), with the possibility of reducing the outlay by disposing of the 'old EM5 Mk1.

So discussion here regarding merits of EM5 Mk2, and downsides of EM1 Mk 1 have been relevant to my considerations of aquiring that new lens plus a new second (but not too big) camera body for the best overall price - I did consider a secondhand EM1 Mk 1.

I think I've spotted a good deal, and have used the EM5 Mk 2 briefly at an event, but was just seeking some assurances it's okay before clicking the make payment button.
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Sounds a good plan. I love the 12-40, it's hardly ever off my camera
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