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Digiscoping with micro 4/3rds

Hi,
Does anybody have some experience of using a m4/3rds camera, EM-10 or Pen-F for digiscoping they could pass on to me as I'm interested in trying this out.
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Re: Digiscoping with micro 4/3rds

Which scope have you got? There is a guy near to me who specialises in it and uses m43 cameras. He sells the adapters for it but they are mainly for Swarovski scopes and are rather pricey.

Here is a link to his website:

http://www.dannysdigiscoping.com/

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Re: Digiscoping with micro 4/3rds

I've done a little dabbling in it. My MFT bodies can reach infinity with prime focus on my Cheap newtonian (connected via a eyepiece tube to c mount then c-mount to MFT) - My DSLR just can't get close enough.
The other options for connecting the camera 'eyepiece projection' & A-focal work with both MFT & DSLR, but are if anything easier using the lighter MFT bodies

With my cheap scopes however the images aren't really any better than I can get simply cropping images from a native telephoto. Perhaps better atmospheric conditions & a little more practice would change that.
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Re: Digiscoping with micro 4/3rds

Hi,
Thanks for the replies. I looked at several scopes.....until I saw the cost !
I've done a bit of research on adapters from SRB Photographic and also looked at the website mentioned.
I will continue to research but would like to try out digiscoping without spending too much money up front, if that's possible.
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Re: Digiscoping with micro 4/3rds

Tordan on here is a bit ( well more than a bit) of an expert I sure he will be on soon.

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Re: Digiscoping with micro 4/3rds

I dabled with digiscoping but eventually came to the conclusion that if I wanted to photograph birds it was much better to use a camera with appropriate lens and keep the scope for watching birds.

The best results I ever got were using point and shoot cameras with physically small diameter lenses (similar to the size of your eye) either hand held in front of the scope eyepiece or in a mount.
I tried using a DSLR both with an eyepiece adapter and camera lens and using an adapter that enabled the scope to replace the camera lens. The first option proved difficult because of the weight of the camera body and the second gave problems with getting dust on the sensor. Overall I ended up with a bag of ironmongery and poor results.

One problem with using a scope in place of the camera lens is that the scope has a relatively small aperture compared to a camera lens. I think the effective aperture of my 80mm Opticron scope (which is pretty large and heavy) is around f16 so you need to use higher ISOs. You also need to use the camera in manual mode and focus using the scope's focus ring. My experience was that by the time you had got it all set up the bird had flown.
The Opticron website http://www.opticron.co.uk/Pages/telephoto_slr.htm
mentions some of the problems.

The simplest way to initially experiment is to use a simple P&S camera or smartphone held in front of the eyepiece. I know a number of birders who get decent results with this method. To be fair there are many people who do get good results with DSLR/CSC cameras (member Tordan58 is one) but I wouldn't recomend buying a scope for digiscoping if you don't already have one.

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Re: Digiscoping with micro 4/3rds

Another vote to contact Tordan, he's posted some unbelievable images on here in the past using scopes. I'm sure he's posted some shots of his gear too in the past.
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Re: Digiscoping with micro 4/3rds

There are no easy answers to getting good photos of birds, assuming that's what you want to do.
But the simplest is to get very close to them.
I would invest more time and effort in locating them and developing "field" skills and spend the money on a portable hide and a flask.
The 75-300mm will give very good results without the hassle of tripods and manual focus!

Tordan is the exception that proves the rule!
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Re: Digiscoping with micro 4/3rds

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There are no easy answers to getting good photos of birds, assuming that's what you want to do.
But the simplest is to get very close to them.
I would invest more time and effort in locating them and developing "field" skills and spend the money on a portable hide and a flask.
The 75-300mm will give very good results without the hassle of tripods and manual focus!

Tordan is the exception that proves the rule!
For birds in general I'd agree 100%.

But there are subjects where getting closer is not an option - My first digiscoping efforts where with off shore power boat racing, and I've also shot (badly) Jupiter & it's moons. Getting close to both of these was a non starter.

Getting close to some birds can be illegal too...
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Re: Digiscoping with micro 4/3rds

Hi,

With digiscoping: do you refer to afocal systems (shooting through the camera lens and the eyepiece of a spotting scope)? Or do you plan to use a refractor scope and need a way to couple it to the camera body? Which scope do you have/plan to use?

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Re: Digiscoping with micro 4/3rds

Hi Tordan,
I have an Acuter Grand Vista 20-60 x80mm angled scope plus a Kaiser T2 adapter to mount my Pen-F directly and a wired remote to trigger it. I need some help with settings to experiment with to get me started.
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