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Old 27th June 2017
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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

This probably isn't much help due to your location, but about 18 months ago Olympus repaired mine for a total cost of 111.

I also considered whether it was worth it and whether it was better to put the money towards a new lens. I concluded that:

a) a new lens of equivalent quality would be WAY more than 111
b) there is no guarantee a nice shiny new (and expensive!) M4/3rds lens would last any longer than its warranty period

I therefore opted to get mine repaired.

You do have another option - you can buy replacement flexi-strips off Ebay very cheaply. If you bought the lens cheap and are considering writing off the purchase cost anyway and buying a replacement, why not have a go at repairing it yourself? If you fail, you're still no worse off as it's broken already.
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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

Lots of people seem to be dumping their M.ZD 12-40 f/2.8 lenses (and E-M1 bodies) at pretty low prices at the moment. If I were you I'd try to save up for one of those given that there appears to be a steady supply (well at least in the UK/Europe).

The Oly M.ZD 12-100 f/4 is potentially a better replacement but due to the novelty factor people seem to be buying this lens rather than selling it...

You have a M.ZD 12-50 in your signature; why not sell that, combine the proceeds with the money you save from the lens service and put the total proceeds towards a M.ZD 12-40 f/2.8?
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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

If you decide to get it repaired I wouldn't delay to long. You don't know what the parts availability is like now Olympus have discontinued the 4/3 lenses.
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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

It depends how much it costs to fix it.

My 12-60 had the aperture stucked recently. Olympus Service fixed it for aprox. 120 Euro.

I had the same problem with 50-200 SWD. This one was cheaper - aprox. 70 Euro.

Romanian prices (I am living in Bucharest)...Maybe in UK is a bit more expensive.

Imagine, one month ago I was in a trip in Malta and discovered in the first day that both lenses had the same problem - aperture stucked. I know the exact moment when 12-60mm got stucked - at the end of the first day in Malta. About 50-200mm I am not sure, maybe it got stucked before going into vacation and I did not noticed. So I was very frustrated to carry 2 heavy lenses with defects during my vacation.
Finnally...I had to make photos only with the aperture wide open during my trip. And this was a serious limitation for the photography I do.

You know this guys complaining that DOF is too large.... They should do a bit of therapy - try to leave the aperture wide open all the time. Maybe they change their minds regarding DOF.
I realized that I often need F/5.6 or even F/8.0.


Why I repaired 12-60mm instead of buying an used one ?
Because with used lenses I could have suprises : decentered lenses, hidden problems.
So the decision was simple and Olympus offered also 6 months waranty for the service they did.

New lenses are not really necessary a perfect solution.
I bought an Panasonic 25mm F/1.7mm.
After using it several times, I realized that at F/4.0 is visible decentered.
So I send it to service (the lens is in waranty).
They only tested it and send it back as "the lens is in parameters".
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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

I don't think I would sell my 12-50 as it is a good back up, especially for video use, but I think Dave's suggestion to do the repair sooner rather than later is wise. I may get the 50-200 SWD lens serviced later this year too, as an alternative or at least, a back up (to the 40-150 Pro etc).

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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

Just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons, how's this for an alternative?

https://www.camerastore.com.au/slr-c...-ois-lens.html

Look at that price: $872.10. At the very least, it will put a cap on the repair price of your lens.
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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

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Just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons, how's this for an alternative?

https://www.camerastore.com.au/slr-c...-ois-lens.html

Look at that price: $872.10. At the very least, it will put a cap on the repair price of your lens.
Are you trying to get me into real trouble.

I am interested in seeing how this lens works out, but I am a little hesitant to go with Panasonic lenses on Olympus bodies with certain functions limited to Olympus lenses (& Oly Pro lenses).

If I can keep repairs (or replacement) to no more than $350 then maybe I might be able to get away with it soon.

I spent a fair bit on battery powered garden equipment from late last year (as well as other power tools) & up to recently, so the camera purchase did push the friendship with my better half. At least the company is using me as a tester for new products now though.
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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

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You do have another option - you can buy replacement flexi-strips off Ebay very cheaply. If you bought the lens cheap and are considering writing off the purchase cost anyway and buying a replacement, why not have a go at repairing it yourself? If you fail, you're still no worse off as it's broken already.
My 12-60 is acting as a paperweight... saving up for a 12-100...but tell me or point me to more info about these flexistrips....
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My 12-60 is acting as a paperweight... saving up for a 12-100...but tell me or point me to more info about these flexistrips....
Yes, I'd like to know also!

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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

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My 12-60 is acting as a paperweight...
I suppose if you haven't got any L glass it will do the job.
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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

Just found one...

NEW Lens Aperture Flex Cable For Olympu...
Item ID: 171419341610
Quantity: 1
Estimated delivery: Tue. 18 Jul. - Wed. 9 Aug.
Paid: 8.29 with PayPal

Seller: szdigital2013.
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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

Apologies for the delay in replying.

The ebay item above is indeed what I was referring to.

My understanding of the usual fault in these lenses is that the electrical conductors in this strip break. Because the strip is constantly flexed as the lens is zoomed in and out, the conductors eventually break. Before the lens fails completely, it is possible to diagnose this fault - the lens will work correctly at 12mm, but the aperture blades appear "stuck" at 60mm. They are not stuck - when the lens is extended, the strip is extended and the electrical contacts are broken so they don't get any electrical signal to tell them to close. When you reduce the focal length, the strip folds up again and the connections remake. If you have a faulty lens, it is worth seeing if it exhibits this behaviour.

From my discussions with Luton cameras, if they or Olympus repair this lens, they actually replace the whole aperature mechanism, not just the flexi-strip, hence the cost.

Finally, I admit that I have no idea whether replacing this strip is easy or impossible! But if anyone has a faulty lens which they don't intend to have professionally repaired, you have absolutely nothing to lose by opening it up and taking a look, and you never know, you might be able to repair it for under a tenner.

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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

If it was mine I'd have a go at repairing it.

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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

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Apologies for the delay in replying.

The ebay item above is indeed what I was referring to.

My understanding of the usual fault in these lenses is that the electrical conductors in this strip break. Because the strip is constantly flexed as the lens is zoomed in and out, the conductors eventually break. Before the lens fails completely, it is possible to diagnose this fault - the lens will work correctly at 12mm, but the aperture blades appear "stuck" at 60mm. They are not stuck - when the lens is extended, the strip is extended and the electrical contacts are broken so they don't get any electrical signal to tell them to close. When you reduce the focal length, the strip folds up again and the connections remake. If you have a faulty lens, it is worth seeing if it exhibits this behaviour.

From my discussions with Luton cameras, if they or Olympus repair this lens, they actually replace the whole aperature mechanism, not just the flexi-strip, hence the cost.

Finally, I admit that I have no idea whether replacing this strip is easy or impossible! But if anyone has a faulty lens which they don't intend to have professionally repaired, you have absolutely nothing to lose by opening it up and taking a look, and you never know, you might be able to repair it for under a tenner.

Dave
From your description it sounds like the problem with mine then, except the aperture is now stuck closed.
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Re: Is it worthwhile repairing a 12-60 SWD lens?

Anything is possible ... but do have the skill?
That you say the whole aperture mechanism is replaced is now my concern What is it I do not know?
Also... wonder where I would get a repair manual ?
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