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Re: Forum Sill Plagued With Gateway Problems

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If the other person concerned or someone else complained about my comment in PM, thats fine and I accept your criticism and admonishment of my post. If not, IMHO it was a case of heavy handed needless moderation and censorship.

Since you're wondering, I did not make any complaint.
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Since you're wondering, I did not make any complaint.
I was sure you hadn't Otto but had to state it as a possibility You're actually quite a nice guy really and perfectly able to fight your own battles.

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Re: Forum Sill Plagued With Gateway Problems

(1) If there's one thing likely to lose moderators from forums, it's people constantly quibbling about their decisions. (Even greater risk on this forum which seems to be vastly subsidised of losing the whole thing)

(2) Paying a voluntary donation doesn't give anyone the right to dictate or modify the rules or to change the nature of the place. If someone joined our croquet club, gave us a sub and then said they wanted to also use our courts for football, we'd advise them to join a football club. this thread would be better sticking to issues about gateway problems rather than deviating into freedom of speech digressions.

(3) It's difficult for anyone (including moderators) to discern "tone of voice" in a textual medium with absolute certainty, so it's wise to try not to write in a way which could be (mis)construed as unnecessarily combative.

(4) I'm pleased to say that I've not had any problems with Gateway type messages.
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Re: Forum Sill Plagued With Gateway Problems

I wonder; is there any way of showing some kind of 'traffic light' status on a thread?

An amber light or 'Yellow Card' means everyone is on warning that the thread will be locked. That would at least reduce the bad feeling caused when the 'Red Card' is shown without warning.

Better still, a bathtub icon would warn of an early bath!
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Better still, a bathtub icon would warn of an early bath!
Nigel ! Are you suggesting I need a bath ? If so, I find the suggestion very personal, insulting and confrontational and hope the Moderators take suitable action immediately ! 20 lashes with a wet Canikon camera strap seems appropriate.


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I wonder; is there any way of showing some kind of 'traffic light' status on a thread?

An amber light or 'Yellow Card' means everyone is on warning that the thread will be locked. That would at least reduce the bad feeling caused when the 'Red Card' is shown without warning.

Better still, a bathtub icon would warn of an early bath!
That's an interesting notion; I'm not sure whether it is possible. Problems I can anticipate are a rush of comments not tempered by restraint, designed to have the last word as the thread is closing anyway, and complaints that the moderators have yellow carded the thread too early or not given enough notice!
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That's an interesting notion; I'm not sure whether it is possible. Problems I can anticipate are a rush of comments not tempered by restraint, designed to have the last word as the thread is closing anyway, and complaints that the moderators have yellow carded the thread too early or not given enough notice!
I should have said that "An amber light or 'Yellow Card' means everyone is on warning that the thread will be locked if unruly behaviour continues".
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Nigel ! Are you suggesting I need a bath ? If so, I find the suggestion very personal, insulting and confrontational and hope the Moderators take suitable action immediately ! 20 lashes with a wet Canikon camera strap seems appropriate.


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Oh yes please! Can it be a leather strap though?
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I would suggest the comment quoted (mine), was not so much personal and disrespectful but made with sarcasm and a hint of tongue in cheek and in response to the comment "This seems to me like a lot of quibbling for no good reason."

If the other person concerned or someone else complained about my comment in PM, thats fine and I accept your criticism and admonishment of my post. If not, IMHO it was a case of heavy handed needless moderation and censorship. Closing the thread was also IMHO not necessary but as a member of the Admin Team it is of course your decision and perogative to do so.

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I can confirm that no complaint was received but in my judgement the post was unacceptable. Of course, I could have simply deleted your post and let the thread continue, but also in my judgement the thread was dragging out a situation that had already been resolved and was drifting off topic. You may not like my judgement but as you say, it is my prerogative.
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I should have said that "An amber light or 'Yellow Card' means everyone is on warning that the thread will be locked if unruly behaviour continues".
And I should have said, "as the thread is in danger of closing anyway."
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In my judgement the thread was dragging out a situation that had already been resolved and was drifting off topic.
Does any thread in the Lounge ever stay on topic ? So far this thread began with Gateway problems then forum donations, censorship, politics, gammon, moderators, for sale thread, clocks, Nigel being lashed, Nigel enjoying being lashed, traffic lights, yellow cards etc etc etc

Time to get your coats on folks........


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Does any thread in the Lounge ever stay on topic ? So far this thread began with Gateway problems then forum donations, censorship, politics, gammon, moderators, for sale thread, clocks, Nigel being lashed, Nigel enjoying being lashed, traffic lights, yellow cards etc etc etc

Time to get your coats on folks........


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Does any thread in the Lounge ever stay on topic ? So far this thread began with Gateway problems then forum donations, censorship, politics, gammon, moderators, for sale thread, clocks, Nigel being lashed, Nigel enjoying being lashed, traffic lights, yellow cards etc etc etc

Time to get your coats on folks........


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That is the nature of threads in the Lounge and to a certain extent we have to expect it, but the thread that you and I are discussing is in the For Sale section.
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